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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
Thanks George, greatly appreciated. I have every confidence that you will represent the group in the best manner possible. Best regards, thanks for being at this meeting. John Brown, George W wrote: > John, > > I have taken note of expectation of how we represent ourselves and our > TC at this meeting. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hardin [mailto:john@maphin.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:29 AM > To: Carol Geyer > Cc: 'James Bryce Clark'; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; Brown, George > W; Goran Zugic; Sally St. Amand; ebSOA > Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission > > Carol and Jamie - > > I have copied George W. Brown, Vasco Drecun and Sally St. Amand, as they > > will be attending the meeting, and George will be giving the address > describing the FERA based SOA, and Vasco and Sally will sit on a panel > that will discuss the same in a question / answer sort of way. I believe > > that I have committment from all three. I have copied the rest of the TC > > for an FYI. Unfortunately neither I nor Goran will be able to attend... > > In addition, I have asked that they act as official representatives of > the ebSOA TC, and describe the activities of the TC, the planned ebXML > Technical Architecture v2.0 and the impact that federated soa > architectures will have on IT in the near future. One of the primary > drivers for our TC is to ensure that we are as closely aligned as we can > > be with the other SOA focused TC's, so that overall we are all > supporting each other instead of appearing fragmented. > > George, please take note of Jamie's instruction here regarding how we > represent ourselves and our TC at this meeting: > > > > Carol Geyer wrote: > >>Actually, we have a web page that addresses this issue: > > http://www.oasis-open.org/private/presenting.php. John, please review > and > >>let me know if you have any questions or if I can help in any way. >> >>Carol >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org] >>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:38 PM >>To: john@maphin.net >>Cc: carol.geyer@oasis-open.org >>Subject: Fwd: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission >> >> Hi John. I am sharing with Carol so she can give it her eye as > > well. Glad to hear you're doing this, but we have our message > >>sync issues >>too: Obviously including >> >> -- Caution in making clear when you're speaking for you, versus > > for a TC you chair. > >> -- There is no "OASIS Technical Architecture" -- so that reference > > will need to be corrected -- maybe there's an OASIS-authored > >>"ebXML" TA v2.0 in the works. References to it need to be clear > > about whether it exists or is in process. > >> -- Obviously the other ebXML TCs (and other OASIS projects) > > reserve the right to speak for themselves. > >>Also be advised there may be other OASIS SOA-oriented presentations at > > that > >>meeting. I'll let you know as soon as I'm clear about that. Not > > trying > >>to throw too much cold water here, it looks like a great event, I just > > wanted to give you a heads-up about the parameters of > >>speaking foe an OASIS TC. Carol will be more informative (and nicer > > too no doubt). > >> Regards Jamie >> >> >>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:45:38 -0400 >> >> >>>From: John Hardin <john@maphin.net> >>>User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) >>>X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >>>To: John Hardin <john@maphin.net> >>>CC: Jill_Martay@infoworld.com, >>>"Brown, George W" <george.w.brown@intel.com>, >>>ebSOA <ebsoa@lists.oasis-open.org> >>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 21:45:44.0839 (UTC) >>>FILETIME=[7D1CF970:01C5BD63] >>>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on >>> hermes.oasis-open.org >>>X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests=none autolearn=no >>>version=2.64 >>>X-Spam-Level: >>>Subject: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission >>> >>>Jill, here is the abstract for the additional panel session we are >>>suggesting. We will have several SOA experts in attendance to sit on >>>the panel. This is an accompanyment for George W. Brown's > > presentation: > >>>"This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA based >>>architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services specs > > leaders. > >>>Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework that has driven > > >>>adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned work that will >>>provide a complete architectural guideline for stable, enterprise > > ready > >>>SOA's. The panel is currently working toward completion of the > > upcoming > >>>OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, with FERA-based SOA Information >>>Models providing the complete framework for the next generation of >>>distributed application networking." >>> >>>John Hardin wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Jill, >>>>I chair the OASIS ebSOA technical committee (see the sig at the >>>>bottom) and am submitting this information for the SOA Conference. I >>>>have completed the form online with the information included here > > also. > >>>>Here is the abstract: >>>>"This presentation will introduce methods and a set of principles and > > >>>>guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value chain >>>>processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered >>>>framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in which >>>>business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a value >>>>chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference model), > > >>>>and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated Enterprise >>>>Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping business collaboration >>>>patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a SOA infrastructure. > > >>>>The transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to > > >>>>the SOA runtime environment is accomplished through a SOA Informaton >>>>Model that is part of a proposed SOA standard. The FERA-based SOA >>>>specifications will be introduced to describe how they provide full >>>>enterprise-level SOA support from both a functional as well as >>>>implementational point of view. The presentation utilizes a supply >>>>chain use case, Logistics Network Services, to illustrate how the >>>>fully defined SOA collaboration semantics resolve the problem of > > semantic integration." > >>>>George, here is what I submitted for you: >>>>Speaker First Name* George >>>>Speaker Last Name* Brown >>>>Speaker Title* Senior Program Manager, Value Chain Integration >>>>Company* Intel Corp >>>>Street Address* 2200 Mission College Blvd. >>>>City* Santa Clara >>>>State* CA >>>>Zip Code* 95052 >>>>Country US of A >>>>Phone* 800-628-8686 >>>>Fax >>>>Email* george.w.brown@intel.com >>>>Speaker type* Analyst/Practitioner >>>>Session type* Analyst/Practitioner Discussion >>>>Primary Job Function (limit 50 words)* Responsible for driving >>>>cross-functional strategic analysis/planning teams to methods and >>>>tools to ensure Intel reaches its goals in Supply Chain Management. >>>> >>>>Bio (approx 100 words)* >>>>George has served three terms on the Supply Chain Council Board of >>>>Directors, having been Chair of the Council in 2002-2003 and the SCC >>>>R&D Strategy Committee. George Is currently on the Board of Directors > > >>>>for the Value Chain Group. Before joining Intel worked as a Senior >>>>Staff Specialist and Software Architect at GDE Systems, Inc., a > > Senior > >>>>Program Manager at SAIC and a Principal Software Engineer at Digital >>>>Equipment Corporation. George has advanced degrees in Aerospace >>>>Engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology. >>>> >>>>Proposed Conference Format* >>>>Powerpoint presentation and speaking. >>>> >>>>Proposed Session Title* >>>>SOA Principles and FERA (Federated Enterprise Reference Architecture) >>>> >>>>What Attendees Will Learn from this Speaker (3-5 bullet points on the > > >>>>Speaker's area of expertise)* >>>>- mapping business collaboration patterns to the appropriate >>>>capabilities within a SOA infrastructure >>>>- transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to >>>>the SOA runtime environment >>>>- SOA Information Models required to accomplish stable, flexible and >>>>comprehensive Service Oriented Architectures >>>> >>>>Who Should Attend (limit 50 words)* >>>>Sr. Technologists >>>>CTO's and CIO's >>>>Lead Engineers and Architects >>>> >>>>Audio/Visual Requirements* >>>>Projector & Microphone >>>> >>>>Presentation Materials (PowerPoint, hand outs, etc.)* Powerpoint and >>>>handouts >>>> >>>>Does this speaker agree to video and/or audio recording?* Yes If you >>>>are completing this for a speaker, plese complete the following >>>>fields: >>>>Contact First Name* john >>>>Contact Last Name* hardin >>>>Contact Title* cto >>>>Contact Company* MedAccessPlus Health Informatics Network >>>>Street Address* 123 Town Square >>>>City* Manchester >>>>State* Kentucky >>>>Zip Code* 40962 >>>>Phone Number* 606.596.1061 >>>>E-mail Address* john@maphin.net >>>> >>>>Brown, George W wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>John, I confirm. George >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > >>>>>--- >>>>> >>>>>*From:* Hamid Ben Malek [mailto:HMalek@us.fujitsu.com] >>>>>*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2005 10:30 AM >>>>>*To:* John Hardin >>>>>*Cc:* Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; > > >>>>>David RR Webber; Sally St. Amand >>>>>*Subject:* RE: InfoWorld SOA Forum >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Sorry I can't participate. I will be in Redmond Washington for the >>>>>WS-RX F2F. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Hamid. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: John Hardin [mailto:john@maphin.net] >>>>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:22 AM >>>>>To: Sally St. Amand >>>>>Cc: Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; >>>>>David RR Webber; Hamid Ben Malek >>>>>Subject: Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum >>>>>Importance: High >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>OK, it looks like we will have George presenting the primary >>>>> >>>>>presentation and Sally, Vasco and George and possibly David Webber > > on > >>>>>the panel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Let me know today if this works for all - I will complete the >>>>> >>>>>registration of the abstracts once I recieve OK from all. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>john >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Sally St. Amand wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>George >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Your presenting provides a strong voice for ebSOA-FERA. I am >>>>>>planning on >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>attending but feel as though I am still validating concepts and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>approaches with the work you all have done. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>While you were not part of the conversation on Thurs, for me more >>>>>>of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>those conversations will insure agreement and an ability to >>>>>>advance the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>work as we build off each others ideas. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The conversation was on orchestration. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I found the discussion valuable I would hope we can schedule like >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>discussion on future concalls and follow them up with specifics in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>emails (or a wiki, if I can dare to dream). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Sally >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>*/"Brown, George W" <george.w.brown@intel.com>/* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Goran, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I did respond that I could go if it makes sense for me to >>>>>>represent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the ebsoa TC. I would certainly abdicate to Vasco or join him >>>>>>if >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> agreed. Let me know. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> George >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > >>>>>--- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Goran Zugic [mailto:goran.zugic@semantion.com] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2005 5:53 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *To:* Sally St. Amand; Brown, George W; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> vasco.drecun@cpd-associates.com; john@maphin.net; David RR >>>>>>Webber; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> hmalek@us.fujitsu.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* InfoWorld SOA Forum >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I keep this between us editors for now until we see if we'll be > > >>>>>>able >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> to submit the abstracts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> John has not sent the abstracts for the SOA Executive Forum >>>>>>yet. He >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> has not got any response from the list when asking who was able > > >>>>>>to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> attend. I will not be able to go. John cannot make it either. >>>>>>My >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> understanding is that Sally can go. I think that if George >>>>>>and/or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Vasco and/or David can also go we should submit the abstracts. >>>>>>For >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> now we have two abstracts: one from George and another one from >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> John. We can still make it depending on who else can also go. >>>>>>The >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> deadline is this Monday Sept 19th. InfoWorld is a big >>>>>>publication >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> and I believe that we could get a nice "initial publicity" for >>>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ebSOA TC SOA work over there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> George's Abstract >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> =================== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "This presentation will introduce methods and a set of >>>>>>principles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> and guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value >>>>>>chain >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in >>>>>>which >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a >>>>>>value >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> model), and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Enterprise Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping >>>>>>business >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> collaboration patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a > > >>>>>>SOA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> infrastructure. The transformation of the models of >>>>>>collaborative >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> process patterns to the SOA runtime environment is accomplished >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> through a SOA Informaton Model that is part of a proposed SOA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> standard. The FERA-based SOA specifications will be introduced >>>>>>to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> describe how they provide full enterprise-level SOA support >>>>>>from >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> both a functional as well as implementational point of view. >>>>>>The >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> presentation utilizes a supply chain use case, Logistics >>>>>>Network >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Services, to illustrate how the fully defined SOA collaboration >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> semantics resolve the problem of semantic integration." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> John's Abstract for the panel dicussion >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> =========================== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA >>>>>>based >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services >>>>>>specs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> leaders. Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework > > >>>>>>that >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> has driven adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned >>>>>>work >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> that will provide a complete architectural guideline for >>>>>>stable, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> enterprise ready SOA's. The panel is currently working toward >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> completion of the upcoming OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, >>>>>>with >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> FERA-based SOA Information Models providing the complete >>>>>>framework >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> for the next generation of distributed application networking." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> SOA Executive Forum InfoWorld link >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.infoworld.com/event/speaker_form.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Goran >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>> >>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~ > >>>>>~ >>>>> >>>>>| john c hardin >>>>> >>>>>| Chief Technology Officer >>>>> >>>>>| http://www.maphin.net >>>>> >>>>>| 606.598.7353 office >>>>> >>>>>| 606.813.4316 cell >>>>> >>>>>| mailto:john@maphin.net >>>>> >>>>>| >>>>> >>>>>| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee >>>>> >>>>>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa >>>>> >>>>>| >>>>> >>>>>| >>>>> >>>>>| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the >>>>> >>>>>| image of a global village." >>>>> >>>>>| >>>>> >>>>>| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 >>>>> >>>>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~ > >>>>>|~ >>> >>>-- >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>| john c hardin >>>| Chief Technology Officer >>>| http://www.maphin.net >>>| 606.598.7353 office >>>| 606.813.4316 cell >>>| mailto:john@maphin.net >>>| >>>| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee >>>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa >>>| >>>| >>>| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the >>>| image of a global village." >>>| >>>| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 >>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | john c hardin | Chief Technology Officer | http://www.maphin.net | 606.598.7353 office | 606.813.4316 cell | mailto:john@maphin.net | | Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee | http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa | | | "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the | image of a global village." | | Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962 |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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