RE: [ebxml-bp] ebXML Business Processes XML instance document for execution?

[Diego Ballvé <diego.ballve@republica.fi>]

I support the idea of BPSS instance being "executable" but I
think that there's a need for a 3rd configuration document,
besides BPSS and CPPA, that would link a BusinessTransaction
activity with some legacy system that would generate/consume
business documents (for instance a BPEL engine, as in David's
example).

I don't think that this is part of BPSS since is partner
specific, not necessarily public knowledge, but a BP can't
be configured to be executed by a BP engine without it -
unless it is a simple exchange of static documents.
Comments??

Regards,
Diego

> Martin Sachs wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, the BPSS instance document should contain 
> enough information 
> to be executable.  I believe that that has always been the 
> intent of the 
> ebXML side of things.  Strictly speaking, "executable" is the 
> wrong term. 
> The BPSS instance document should be able to be deployed into 
> the runtime 
> system.  In other words, the BPSS document should be able to 
> be used to 
> configure the runtime system to execute and monitor the 
> business process 
> that it describes.  That's the same idea as deploying the CPA 
> into the 
> runtime system to configure it for doing business between the 
> two partners 
> that agreed to that CPA.  Such a runtime system is sometimes 
> referred to as 
> a BSI (business service interface) in ebXML lingo.
> 
> Regards,
> Marty
> 
> At 01:15 AM 11/2/2003 -0700, Sacha Schlegel wrote:
> >Hi ebXML BP TC
> >
> >Coming backwards from a CPA (sample Negotiation CPA) to the ebXML
> >Business Process (sample Negotiation Business Process) I thought that
> >the BP XML Instance document should have enough information to be
> >executable.
> >
> >But for some reasons I now think that I misunderstand.
> >
> >Any hints where to catch up on ebXML BPSS, what it is and 
> what it isn't?
> >
> >Kind regards.
> >
> >Sacha Schlegel
> >
> >PS: I admit that I did not read any BPEL (or XLANG, WSFL) or
> >WS-Orchestration specification but the ebXML BPSS 1.0
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