Re: [ebxml-bp] IBM to Support BPEL-Based Web Services

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Duane,

Still un-news - of course they are providing a home-spun mix
of Rational-Rose UML and using that to generate BPEL
and talking up process integration.

And MQ-Series itself has a chunk of GUI configuration stuff
that is required by human direction - not to mention inputs 
from FAX, IVR or similar servers.

My experience with these news puffs is - what you are 
reading into this is nothing like what the sales guy who 
wrote the puff is thinking - even though he uses words 
you think are cues to stuff that relates to your work - they
are not.

I bet if you called a local IBM sales office and asked them
they'd tell you - yeah that human stuff is our IVR server
interface - or similar.

Cheers, DW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>
To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: "ebXML BP" <ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ebxml-bp] IBM to Support BPEL-Based Web Services


> I found it most interesting.  The ability to incorporate "human or 
> manual" processes in the midst of a automated exchange, the runtime 
> monitoring and execution debugging, bringing Web services and BPEL 
> execution to its iSeries and zSeries servers, the fact that IBM is 
> moving its' entire WebSphere product line to a more process centric 
> methodology all interested me.
> 
> Ignore it if you want but the rest of this group might possibly consider 
> what the ramifications are to BPSS etc and at a larger level to ebXML. 
>  I have my own story but am interested to know what others see.
> 
> Duane
> 
> David RR Webber wrote:
> 
> >Duane,
> >
> >This just seems like a product pitch for IBM - and an un-news item as
> >clearly they wrote the darn spec' why wouldn't they have it implemented?
> >
> >Was there a specific "interest" item here?  I did not see anything.
> >
> >DW.
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>
> >Cc: "ebXML BP" <ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:31 PM
> >Subject: [ebxml-bp] IBM to Support BPEL-Based Web Services
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Interesting read....
> >>
> >>IBM to Support BPEL-Based Web Services on iSeries in Q3 [good clear
> >>article on some of the latest IBM websphere announcements]
> >>
> >>BM's Software Group is bringing Web services and Business Process
> >>Execution Language (BPEL) execution to its iSeries and zSeries
> >>servers. IBM committed to deploying WBISF 5.1 on z/OS during the
> >>second quarter of the year, and on OS/400 during the third quarter.
> >>The product is already supported on Linux running on those two server
> >>platforms.
> >>
> >>http://www.midrangeserver.com/fhs/fhs041304-story03.html
> >>
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Senior Standards Strategist
> >>Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>http://www.adobe.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> 
> -- 
> Senior Standards Strategist
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://www.adobe.com
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