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Subject: Re: [ebxml-bp] #0036 Monitoring for ebBP-Provide Boundaries
>Moberg: Description: Monitoring for ebBP-Provide Boundaries >Owner: Dale Moberg (dmoberg@cyclonecommerce.com) >Due: 15 May 2004 >...... >Let me begin by mentioning the following text that is in a working draft >for 2.0: > >>>The ebXML collaboration semantics contain a number of relationships >>>between multiparty collaborations and binary collaborations, between >>>recursive layers of binary collaborations, and choreographies among >>>transactions in binary collaborations. It is anticipated that over >>>time BSI software will evolve to the point of monitoring and managing the state of a collaboration, similar to the way a BSI today is expected to manage the state of a transaction. For the immediate >>>future, such capabilities are not expected and not required. >>> >>> >I understand the task of "monitoring a business process" to involve the >following very high level subtasks: > >1. To be able to correlate many distinct acts of document transmission >to a single business process session. For BPSS, these document >transmissions are requests, responses, and signals and possibly wsdl >defined service invocations. > > mm1: In the future, we will need to accommodate more than request-response such as visibility of composed activities particularly with binary and multiparty collaboration in a larger collaborative activity. >2. To associate the session phases identified in subtask 1 with a BP >description. >3. To establish either that the session conformed with the associated BP >description or that it failed to conform in some specifiable way( a >timeout occurred without an associated exception signal, for example). >4. The information used to establish the acts of document transmission >may be insufficient or unavailable, especially with multiparty >collaborations. Nevertheless, a participant can establish conformance of >the process in so far as it is "visible". > >Of these tasks, the most important is that BPSS provide documentation of >the business process sufficiently precise and detailed so that >conformance or nonconformance is recognizable. For ebXML there are a >couple of aspects to the detail/precision level. > >1. Roles enable a monitoring POV to establish its responsibilities in >the business process. (That is, will it send or receive a request? What >timeouts govern its responses? What signals is it expected to send? Is >there an order in which signals and responses must occur? And so on. A >large number of these matters are already specified. We have done >considerable work ensuring that Roles can be mapped to Parties within a >CPA, and that provides details about what documents will flow under what >conditions. The CPA permits associating sessions with BPSS defined >processes, we will asssume. > >2. As the initial excerpt indicates, the BSI today is expected to manage >the state of the BusinessTransactions. What is not yet sufficiently >clear are some details connected with managing several choreography >level transitions: >a. The transition element when it involves the "onInitiation" attribute >as true. How does the outcome of the subordinate BT's "return" relate to >status of the superordinate BT? > mm1: Can you explain that more? > There doesn't need to be a fixed >semantic here, but there does need to be a place that specifies a range >of policies IMO. >b. The CollaborationActivity element has completion states. How does >entering these states relate to the completion state of the BC that >contains the CollaborationActivity? This is somewhat similar to point a. >c. MultipartyCollaboration involving CollaborationActivity. Do we define >a completion state for these? [It might not be always "knowable" by one >party if that party is restricted just to information that passes >through its document flows, but there may be auxiliary sources of info >that allow this information to be acquired.] > mm1: We discussed that multi-party collaboration has different levels of visibility given the participants (completion then is relative). Have to understand more about compositional aspects of state (and impact of pre- and post-conditions, if applicable). >There are also Choreography "gaps" that are puzzling. Part of these gaps >may just reflect the fact that we allow a schema valid BPSS to have >unreachable states and to have noncompletion states not having any >transition defined. Some of this may be sorted out and become clear by >adding warnings (in the form of well-formedness constraints) that >document unreachable or hung conditions. > > mm1: Are you saying that if an activity is not used, that indicates non-completion? >But other features may reflect a need for more information being >supplied to the designer. >For example, if I use a transition for subordination, how do I >choreograph the next state(s) reachable? Do I need additional >Transitions (or something with an incoming link) to link to the >onInitiation=true transition? That seems like a funny notation >implication. Also, as I mentioned at the f2f, the Decision, Fork, and >Join constructs (assuming we continue to use them) can be clarified by >adding explicit descriptions of Links to the incoming and/or outgoing >states. Otherwise their use in choreography is underspecified IMO. > >So the gaps seem to me to be mainly ones of underspecification and >incompleteness rather than having something there that is wrong. There >does seem, on occasion, to be stuff that is not being used that confuses >the current picture. These are attributes like "preCondition" >"postCondition" "beginsWhen" and "endsWhen" that just add clutter. They >should be moved to a "future directions" section because we already have >a documentation element for documentation. [The spec currently says >these attributes are not defined but can be used for documentation and >may be given a semantic later. That means that transforms for converting >BPSS instances > 3.x should delete these attributes when up versioning. >Why bother even putting all this clutter in at the 2.0 level?] > > mm1: I believe some users are actually making these computable in practice. Perhaps John Yunker can add to this discussion. > >So here are some of the high-level gaps relevant to defining how a >process should go for the monitoring task to utilize: > >Specify how onInitiation and CA "compose" (how their "return" >values/status (completion states and their guard conditions) or pertains >to subsequent state transition, most critically.) > >Clean up the activity-diagram-like constructs with respect to linkage >and ConditionExpressions (what I was starting in > >Add the role binding "Performs" construct as needed (where jumps to new >role contexts possible) and explain the default semantics and cases >where a new Role "pops up") > >Add WF constraints explaining about unreachable BTA states or writing >flows ending up stuck in a non-completion state. [This will help people >build a BPSS parser/interpreter that knows when a "bad" instance is >encountered. I take the BPSS interpreter to be building up some internal >labeled state transition diagram that can be used in monitoring. ] > > > > > > > > > > > >
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