Re: [ebxml-bp] ebBP/IIC 3/10/2006: ebBP Draft Working Profile from IIC -

Just an observation more than comment as such

Where there is mention of BeginsWhen, etc (e.g. page 7)

"BeginsWhen" Triggers

[Event external to this activity that causes the activity to commence. For example, an invoice is generated when an Advanced Ship Notice is sent]

For example, when a product is delivered, the invoice is generated.

shouldn't there be care to distinguish (perhaps not just a matter for this

spec) private from public trigger events. The example here is delivery

of the product but I would suggest that the example * might * be a bit

misleading. Shouldn't it be that a trigger is only ever an event which is

equally visible to both (or all) parties? It does say 'Event external' but the

example is a delivery which the delivering party and receiving party see

differently. I'd like a clearer guideline that triggers should be events

defined as visible elsewhere in a business definition (perhaps 3.0 could

specify some use of ID/IDREF for this). In that case the first example

is OK 'when an Advanced Ship Notice is sent' - this is an external event,

but the second could be private and not visible, 'when a product is delivered'

- it would only be made visible by some other resulting event such as

a ReceiptAdvice being sent to signal delivery or an Advanced Ship Notice

being sent to signal despatch.

On 11/03/06, Monica J Martin <Monica.Martin@sun.com> wrote:

Here is the latest rendition of the ebBP draft working profile from
ebXML IIC. Jacques has done a yeoman's job on helping to compile this
document. This is a redlined version (forgiveness please).

Note what is included:

  1. Business transactions (activities and link to patterns) including
     some details on ComplexBTA
  2. Business signals
  3. Business documents
  4. Business collaboration

Note what is currently missing:

  1. Condition expressions (transitions, guards, success/failure states)
  2. More timing parameters

Reference:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ebxml-bp/download.php/17107/ebBP2-Deployment-Profile-Template-04-mm1.doc
(public site:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17107/ebBP2-Deployment-Profile-Template-04-mm1.doc ).
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I'd really appreciate more feedback before I go any farther. Sacha and
Stephen, can you please review given your experience with UBP, and Sally
in view of the FAQ.  Jacques wishes to get this is a stable state to
work towards a Committee Draft. We need to assist the IIC team in that
endeavor. Thanks ahead of time for your comments and feedback.

[1] Thought I would save the inbox clutter with an attachment.

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