RE: ebXML Business Process and JBOSS JBPM. your questions for Tom ...

Here's some notes for the "boodee-liscous" event you refer to ( who let Hollywood take over writing the OED? )

Your Q's - with answers: >>

o In particular how did they combine the public and private business
processes?

>> BPEL designer is used to create the internal private processes. These

are not shared are public. However the RAPID industry group has

defined the basic business transactions - these are all binary collaboration

exchanges - so that information is public.

o Did they generate BPEL "stuff" from an ebXML Business Process?

>> There is formal linkage. The CPA is the vehicle for this as the article

notes. The Actions in the CPA appear as dropdowns in the BPEL

designer - and vice versa - the CPA editor can create and select

Actions shared with the BPEL.

o What triggered the BPEL engine?
o a ebBP business signal? or
o did you "simply" forward the incoming business document with
metadata (service, action, cpa id, conversation) to the BPEL engine?

>> In Oracle there is an XML queuing mechanism - so the ebMS and

the BPEL interact via that queue - BPEL pushing things to the send

for the ebMS, and then BPEL is notified of incoming content.

The diagram in the article shows how the B2B engine and BPEL

o was it the BPEL engine that "sends" a business document?
o or is it an application and the application lets the BPEL engine
know about it?

>> BPEL is interfacing with the backend ERP systems. So - when

items are created in the ERP system - they go thru the BPEL

control and state management layer to the ebMS and reverse path

o if it is the BPEL engine that sends the business document to the
ebXML gateway ... how where the service, action, cpa id information
looked up (CRM Rest API call? ;)?

>> Oracle has its own queuing and control mechanisms that are used

for this. You can find out more info' from the Oracle website.

The article contains the link to the Oracle ebMS setup tutorial - its

well worth looking that over.

Hope this is all helpful.

Thanks, DW

"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: ebXML Business Process and JBOSS JBPM. your questions for Tom
...
From: Sacha Schlegel <sacha_oasis@schlegel.li>
Date: Mon, February 19, 2007 10:42 am
To: ebXML BP <ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org>
Cc: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>

Hi ebXML Business Process team

This weekend I will visit the kick-ass FOSDEM conference in Brussels
(its THE Free and Open Source Developers Conference).

Tom Baeyens will give a presentation about JBOSS JBPM. So I hope to have
a chat with him.

If anyone has a question he/she would likes to ask Tom let me know and I
will ask for you.

I would be interested for example: what is JBOSS / RedHat doing
regarding B2B

Dave RR Webber:

o do you have more information of our article from the ORACLE Helena
Chemical report?
o In particular how did they combine the public and private business
processes?
o Did they generate BPEL "stuff" from an ebXML Business Process?
o What triggered the BPEL engine?
o a ebBP business signal? or
o did you "simply" forward the incoming business document with
metadata (service, action, cpa id, conversation) to the BPEL engine?
o was it the BPEL engine that "sends" a business document?
o or is it an application and the application lets the BPEL engine
know about it?
o if it is the BPEL engine that sends the business document to the
ebXML gateway ... how where the service, action, cpa id information
looked up (CRM Rest API call? ;)?

Regards

Sacha

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