Fwd: Re: [ebxml-cppa-comment] Some Problem about CPP/A negotiation

[Martin Sachs <msachs@cyclonecommerce.com>]

> My response below (MWS2:)
>
>
> At 11:28 AM 5/28/2003 +0800, Antonio wrote:
> > Hello, Martin.
> > Thanks for your Response.
> > I still have some questions below( Q: )
> >  
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> > MWS: At this stage of development, CPP/A is concerned only with
> > information technology parameters and CPPA negotiation works only with
> > the information technology parameters.  Negotiation on business
> > information is a much more complex subject and we have not yet begun to
> > address it.
> >  
> > Q: Can you tell me what kind of  "information technology
> > parameters"  in the two parties are need to negotiate.
> >      For example, some elements or attributes in
> > Company A(CPP) are need to negotiate with Company B(CPP). 
> >      Therefore if they agree the same value, they
> > will sign it (CPA is generated).
> >      (If you cna tell me the "pages" of the
> > Speciffication are discussed these)
>
> MWS2:  Anything defined in the CPPA specification might be
> negotiated.  The draft negotiation specification discusses the
> important parameters and the extent to which each is 
> negotiable.
>
> >  
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MWS:  The process of negotiation is described in the CPPA
> > negotiation draft specification. Version .04, which you mention below, is
> > still the current draft.  An update will be issued sometime in
> > June.  Please feel free to ask specific questions on things you may
> > not understand in the negotiation draft.
> >  
> >      
> > MWS:  the negotiation protocol is described in the CPPA negotiation
> > draft.  We are not attempting to define or standardize a specific
> > negotiation algorithm.  As long as the rules in the negotiation
> > draft are followed, it should be  possible for each party to use a
> > private algorithm.
> > Q: About the CPPA negotiation draft specification Version .04 --- 14
> > Negotiation Algorithm (page 59).
> >      This section is not finished or clearly. Could
> > you release the new version to me, and let me understand it more
> > clearly.
>
> MWS2:  As I said above the negotiation algorithm section is only an
> introduction to the subject.  We do not plan to develop standardized
> negotiation algorithms.  See the first paragraph of the section and
> the indented NOTE that follows it.
>
> >      
> > Sometimes I feel dejected at this  CPPA negotiation draft
> > specification, because it seem easy to understand it and 
> >       so difficult to understand  or
> > use(develope) it.  @@|||
>
> MWS2:  I'm sorry, but the draft negotiation specification is indeed
> unfinished.  If you have specific questions about things you
> do  not understand, please ask them.  That will guide team in
> making the necessary improvements.
>
> >      
> > Therefore if you call me how to do when I want to develope a CPP/A
> > system. 
> >        Or which pages is must need to
> > study?
>
> MWS2:  You can develop a CPP/A system without standardized
> negotiation.  You need to study everything in the CPPA
> specification. If you want to implement negotiation, then you must study
> everything in the draft negotiation specification. You must also
> understand the difference between negotiation protocol  (the rules
> for the exchange of negotiation messages) and a negotiation
> algorithm.  The negotiation algorithm is the private computation
> that takes place inside each party to evaluate an offer and decide
> whether to accept, reject, or propose changes. We will not be specifying
> a negotiation algorithm in version 1.
>
> >  
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MWS:  The best way to understand CPP/A is through the first few
> > sections of the CPPA specification.  Negotiation and negotiation
> > algorithms have been extensively studied for 100 years or more. There are
> > many papers in the scientific literature.  Here are just a few:
> >  
> > Q: Thanks for your Suggestion.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Thanks.
> >  
> > Best Regard.
> >    
> > Antonio Hsu
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Antonio Hsu
> > Institute of Information Management, CYCU
> > Email:
> > antony65@mis.cycu.edu.tw
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *************************************
> Martin Sachs
> standards architect
> Cyclone Commerce
> msachs@cyclonecommerce.com

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Martin Sachs
standards architect
Cyclone Commerce
msachs@cyclonecommerce.com