RE: [ebxml-iic] Latest interop spec : Default CPA Discussion

[Mike Dillon - Drummond Group <mike@drummondgroup.com>]

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Hi All,

 

(Ive reviewed the current Interoperability Suite and I found 2 minor inconsistencies in the text

that I have detailed directly below.)

 

For "Simple" or "Default" CPA, I think what we at DGI are thinking is that some sort of

default CPA can be built that will be helpful to assist vendors targeting SMEs (Small

to Medium Sized Enterprises), we would like to drive the market adoption of ebXML Message

Service by SMEs, we believe that this is a worthwhile goal of the whole ebXML effort, and

that it could help overall market adoption of ebXML.

 

I'm not sure that what we are thinking fits well with what IIC is trying to accomplish immediately

in the current  IIC Interoperability document... the CPA stuff from Steve Yung looks like an informative/descriptive

simple CPA but the CPA stuff that Michael Kass put out looks like a full blown CPA that is trying to capture

all the canSend/CanReceive kind of details for the Test Framework.... hopefully the attached is useful input.

 

For DGI, we define in our test suite the parameters for each test,

and we think weve got a pretty good handle on what paramaters are absolutely required for

Interoprability.  Of course, we have to keep in mind that many implementations do not yet

physically use CPP/CPA.  Attached is a list of the parameters that we use for each of

our current ebXML Message Service tests, the table shows where the parameters map to specific

version 2 CPA fields.  Let me know if this doesnt make sense, or you cant read it...

 

Earlier today, I forwarded a mail, from Matt Mackenzie, who has made an initial proposal to the

ebXML Messaging Committee related to "default CPAs".

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Specific comments on inconsistencies in IIC Interoperability Suite version 1.01

 

1) Section 4.1.2 CPA Data. The description of which test the CPAs relate to, needs to be renumbered. 

    For example,    "Urn:config:cpa_basic_reliablesync (for test cases 1.10)."

     Test case 1.10 has been renamed to 1.9. 

2) Section 3.29 Test Case 1.9.  The description under Test Material says "at both MSH set signature to yes" but

    the description directly below this text, and in the related CPA, say that none of request nor ack nor response

    should be signed.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rik Drummond [mailto:rvd2@drummondgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:26 PM
To: 'Michael Kass'; 'Jacques Durand'; 'Steven Yung'; ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ebxml-iic] Latest interop spec

aaron is buried. mike may be able to help. mike?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kass [mailto:michael.kass@nist.gov]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:19 PM
To: Jacques Durand; 'Rik Drummond'; 'Steven Yung'; ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ebxml-iic] Latest interop spec

Jacques and all,

 

  This (attached ) CPA needs a lot of work, but it was an attempt to specify basic CPA from which others could

be derived through minimal modification. It is modeled on the CPPA Tech Committee's example cpa.

 

  It is not nearly done; packaging portion is still not synchronized, and does not validate because of that. But perhaps someone with CPA experience could modify it to do what is required,using the Test Framework document to supply the information regarding service names, Action names,  message payload

schema..etc.

 

  I am making a final pass through the Test Framework document to find any errors prior to vote on Monday, and

will work on the CPA if time permits.

 

Regards,

Mike

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jacques Durand

To: 'Rik Drummond' ; 'Steven Yung' ; ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:02 PM

Subject: RE: [ebxml-iic] Latest interop spec

Rick:

Could Aaron or Mike help here propose the "simple" CPA you have in mind?
(is that too optimistic to expect this by tomorrow...?)
Once we have this, Steve can make variants (as our 9 test cases require 6 CPA variants).

Thanks,

Jacques

-----Original Message-----
From: Rik Drummond [mailto:rvd2@drummondgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:43 AM
To: 'Steven Yung'; ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ebxml-iic] Latest interop spec

Steve, we would be glad to input on this since we plan to test this
functioinality this fall. I think the key point to make the ebxml ms
stuff fit the small and medium enterprise space it a default, simple cpa
that will make ebxml ms work sufficiently for the sme and initial
communications testing without any configuration issues... Making ebxml
ms produces install easier...just some thoughts.... .rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Yung [mailto:steven.yung@sun.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:29 PM
To: ebxml-iic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ebxml-iic] Latest interop spec

Hi All,

Attached is the latest interop spec (hopefully the final one).  The one
thing that I am still working on (which is currently not part of the
spec) is the CPA.  I've taking a first cut at what should be in the CPA
(see attached doc), but will need lots of help in finishing this out.

--
Cheers,
Steve
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Steve Yung, steven.yung@sun.com
Market Development Manager
Web Services/XML Development
Sun Microsystems
Phone: +1-650-786-8469
Fax: +1-650-786-3674

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