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Subject: Re: [ebxml-jc] Re: New discussion list request (repeat)
Looks pretty good. We just need some names attached and I think that it's good to go. -Karl Jacques Durand wrote: > Karl: > > here is a less imperative statement below: does it address your concern? > If no one objects I suggest we proceed very soon with the discussion > list creation. > > Please JC members let us know if you want to sponsor this list: > you have to explicitly send your name/email to me. > > Jacques > > ------------------ > A new forum is being formed to facilitate and promote the adoption of > ebXML > (Electronic Business eXtensible Markup Language) specifications, and > their deployment. A concrete outcome of this forum will be a > recommendation on whether > or not to create an ebXML Adoption Technical Committee (TC) under OASIS. > > Assuming a recommendation for a new TC is made by the group, it is > important to note that its activity > is more promotional than technical: unlike most other OASIS TCs, no > technical specification is expected. > > The new TC would create promotional, explanatory and marketing > materials related to the implementation > and adoption of ebXML. The overall goals are: > · To provide a forum for collaboration on facilitating the promotion > and adoption of ebXML specifications > produced by OASIS and UN/CEFACT. > · To promote the worldwide adoption of ebXML OASIS Standards (ISO > 15000) and ebXML specifications > through marketing awareness and education programs. > > The new TC could also work to align with relevant efforts of other > organizations, such as RosettaNet, > the Open Applications Group Inc. (OAGI) and the United Nations Centre > for Trade Facilitation and eBusiness > (UN/CEFACT), or any other organization developing or promoting ebXML > methodologies. > > The group will also discuss resources and contributions (in-kind or not) > for the future TC, from its members and outside its membership. > > -------- end of statement. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:19 AM > To: ebxml-jc@lists.oasis-open.org > Cc: James Bryce Clark > Subject: [ebxml-jc] Re: New discussion list request (repeat) > > > JC members: > > Comments in regards to the TC Process: > > > 1. The name of the discussion list: > > ebxml-adoption > > We'll call it "ebxml-adoption-discuss" because we always append > "-discuss" to the end of the discussion list names. And as the process > requires that the name not be the same of the TC that may come along > later we don't want to preclude the use of "ebxml-adoption" for the TC > list name. (How about "ebxml-adopt" instead of "ebxml-adoption", just to > shorten it a bit?) > > > 3. The names, electronic mail addresses of creators: > > names in the JC list (chairs and co-chairs of the ebXMLTCs) > > This should be part of the proposal (i.e. don't require me to come up > with the list.) > > > Comments in regards to the proposal in general: > > > 2. A preliminary statement of scope for the TC (see below): > > This is a bit more detailed than I would normally expect for the start > of a discussion list. That's not to say that it's wrong, but I'm > wondering if some of the detail could be saved until later, and used to > get the discussion going once the list is started. This is some good > stuff, though, so we don't want to loose it -- just save some of it for > later perhaps. But if you'd rather include it all then I'll use it for > the announcement; it's up to you guys. > > Also, there's a couple of places in the scope statement that sound like > TC charter language rather than "what this TC could be". For example > "Examples of supporting activities within the scope of this TC are:" > sounds like the TC exists; you should change it to "Examples of > supporting activities that could be within the scope of this potential > TC are:" etc. > > (Jamie may want to comment further about the scope.) > > > Although the TC will not act as an accounting entity and will not > > have proper funds, it may solicit resources and contributions > > from its members and outside its membership, for the direct funding > > of its activities. > > Note that even if funds are contributed they must be sent to OASIS and > not to the TC; the TC will have no means to collect, store, and > distribute funds as it is not a legal entity. I suspect that > contributions of in-kind resources will work best (e.g. the TC > identifies the need for printed brochures, and asks a company to have > these printed -- not ask for the company to pay money to the TC to have > this done). > > > -Karl > > > > > ian.c.jones@bt.com wrote: > > Karl, > > > > on behalf of Jacques. (Limited e-mail access) > > > > Will you review this request action the creation of a discussion > list, and distribute the details to the JC members. Any comments? > > > > > Ian Jones > > > > All: > > > > Here is then the proposed info for Karl to create the new list. > > Please verify content. If I don't hear from you by tomorrow, that is > what I would ask Karl to use for initiating this > > discussion list. The names of other people who responded to a > previous call for participation, would > > be added as first subscribers. > > > > Jacques > > > > -------------------------- > > > > 1. The name of the discussion list: > > ebxml-adoption > > > > 2. A preliminary statement of scope for the TC (see below): > > > > 3. The names, electronic mail addresses of creators: > > names in the JC list (chairs and co-chairs of the ebXMLTCs) > > > > 4. Name of list moderator: > > Matt McKenzie. > > > > ------------------------- start of statement of scope (inspired from > draft charter) > > > > A new forum is being formed to facilitate and promote the adoption of > ebXML > > (Electronic Business eXtensible Markup Language) specifications, and > > their deployment. A concrete outcome of this forum will be a > recommendation on whether > > or not to create an ebXML Adoption Technical Committee (TC) under OASIS. > > > > The new TC would not create technical specifications, but would > create promotional, explanatory and > > marketing materials related to the implementation and adoption of > ebXML. The overall goals are: > > · To provide a forum for collaboration on facilitating the promotion > and adoption of ebXML specifications produced by OASIS and UN/CEFACT. > > > · To promote the worldwide adoption of ebXML OASIS Standards (ISO > 15000) and ebXML specifications through marketing awareness and > education programs. > > > > > Examples of supporting activities within the scope of this TC are: > > > > 1. Maintaining www.ebxml.org <http://www.ebxml.org> as a resource for > relevant, accurate information: > > -Identifying links to materials authored by third parties. > > - Maintaining Implementations list and Adoption Update > > - Advising OASIS staff regarding the look and feel of the site. > > > > 2. Creating a vendor- and industry-neutral ebXML Users Council (or > similar entity) for the > > balanced promotion of use of ebXML technologies and methodologies. > > > > 3. Supporting conference participation by creating a repository of > promotional material, > > identifying speakers, providing presentation materials, > > coordinating stand-alone events and tracks within conferences. > > > > 4. Assisting in the coordination and promotion of OASIS > Interoperability demonstrations involving ebXML > > > > 5. Identifying the need for materials to support adoption, such as > white papers, implementation guidelines, > > best practices, etc. The TC will then identify and solicit > contributors from the originating ebXML TCs, > > who can help produce this material. > > > > 6. Producing data sheets and/or brochures for distribution at > conferences, seminars and other meetings. > > > > 7. Gather market data or project data worldwide, in a consistent way, > and relay business and market requirements > > to the ebXML technical committees. > > > > The new TC could also work to align with relevant efforts of other > organizations, such as RosettaNet, the Open Applications Group Inc. > > > (OAGI) and the United Nations Centre for Trade Facilitation and > eBusiness (UN/CEFACT) organization. Organizations developing or > > > promoting ebXML methodologies will be invited to participate subject > to OASIS rules. > > > > Although the TC will not act as an accounting entity and will not > have proper funds, it may solicit resources and contributions > > > from its members and outside its membership, for the direct funding > of its activities. > > > > The TC will not publish normative public guidance about existing > ebXML specifications that contradicts the approved texts. > > > It may gather new requirements, suggestions for change or extension, > but these will be first submitted to the relevant originating TC, > > > and then both TCs will cooperate on proposing appropriate deployment > guidelines that address these shortcomings, > > expressed in a manner that does not undermine the approved > specifications. > > ------------------------- end of statement > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of > the OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ebxml-jc/members/leave_workgroup.php. >
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