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Subject: Re: Fw: [ebxml-msg] Re: [ebxml-cppa] Re: v. 2.0 ebXML xsd schemadirectory
I've submitted a report to the W3C using the
"broken URI" tool:
The information you submitted has been sent to the W3C Webmaster
Thank you for your interest in our web site
Email: chris.ferris@sun.com
Originating URL: http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd
Forbidden Page: http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd
Comments: The schema document at the URI
http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd indicates that the permanent URI of
the current resource will be at the forbidden URI address. It would
seem to me that the URI http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd has incorrect
access control applied to it. From the comments within the schema:
"In keeping with the XML Schema WG's standard versioning policy, this
schema document will persist at http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd.
At the date of issue it can also be found at
http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd. The schema document at that URI may
however change in the future, in order to remain compatible with
the latest version of XML Schema itself. In other words, if the
XML Schema namespace changes, the version of this document at
http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd will change accordingly; the version
at http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd will not change."
In the meanwhile, I suggest that the URI which *can* be accessed
be referenced.
Cheers,
Chris
Arvola Chan wrote:
> It seems that the file http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd does exists
> but read access has not been given to the general public. For
> example, if you try
>
> http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd2
>
> You will be told that the requested document does not exist but a
> similar document /2001/03/xml.xsd is available.
>
> However, if you click on the link, you will get a 403 error.
>
> Probably an oversight on the part of W3C. Does anyone know
> how the problem can be reported to W3C?
>
> -Arvola
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wang <mwang@tibco.com>
> To: Arvola Chan <arvola@tibco.com>
> Date: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Re: [ebxml-cppa] Re: v. 2.0 ebXML xsd schema
> directory
>
>
>
>>FYI.
>>I think a 403 means Forbidden. This means the document is available
>>but the read access is not turned on. I somehow think it is an
>>oversight by w3c. In theory, it should be available. Of course,
>>I don't understand how w3c can be asked to make it available ...
>>-mw
>>
>>Arvola Chan wrote:
>>
>>>Chris:
>>>
>>>Thanks for your due diligence. I will update the schema to reference
>>>
>>>http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd
>>>
>>>plus add a comment that some parsers may require the declaration:
>>>
>>>xmlns:xml="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace"
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>-Arvola
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Christopher Ferris <chris.ferris@sun.com>
>>>To: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>Cc: ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org <ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>Date: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:58 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Re: [ebxml-cppa] Re: v. 2.0 ebXML xsd schema
>>>directory
>>>
>>>A couple of points. I'm glad that this was found.
>>>At the time of the ebXML 1.0 specs, (at least the
>>>time when the authoring was on-going) this didn't
>>>exist, hence the reference to an oasis-open.org URI.
>>>
>>>However, I just tried resolving the URI that Arvola
>>>would like to refrerence and I get a 403. I imagine
>>>that this is probably not desireable.
>>>
>>>Suggest instead that the URI referenced be:
>>>
>>>http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>Arvola Chan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rich:
>>>>
>>>>I agree with your first point.
>>>>
>>>>With respect to your second point on referring to the canonical
>>>>
> location
>
>>>>http://www.w2.org/2001/xml.xsd, I like to bring your attention to the
>>>>following excerpt from that schema:
>>>>
>>>> <xs:annotation>
>>>> <xs:documentation>In keeping with the XML Schema WG's standard
>>>>
>>>versioning
>>>
>>>> policy, this schema document will persist at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd.
>>>> At the date of issue it can also be found at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd.
>>>> The schema document at that URI may however change in the future,
>>>> in order to remain compatible with the latest version of XML Schema
>>>> itself. In other words, if the XML Schema namespace changes, the
>>>>
>>>version
>>>
>>>> of this document at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd will change
>>>> accordingly; the version at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd will not change.
>>>> </xs:documentation>
>>>> </xs:annotation>
>>>>
>>>>I think we should set the xsi:schemaLocation for the xml namespace to
>>>>http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd.
>>>>
>>>>-Arvola
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Rich Salz" <rsalz@zolera.com>
>>>>To: "Arvola Chan" <arvola@tibco.com>
>>>>Cc: <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>; <ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:42 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Re: [ebxml-cppa] Re: v. 2.0 ebXML xsd schema
>>>>directory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>{I'm not a member of the CPPA list, so they won't see this :}
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the XML namespace standard [1],
>>>>>The prefix xml is by definition bound to the namespace name
>>>>>http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace.
>>>>>So the declaration is not required, but it might not be illegal to have
>>>>>it. I suggest *not* putting it, since it would cause folks to look
>>>>>twice and wonder if the prefix is being bound to it's non-default
>>>>>value. And it's easier to point buggy software to the URL that shows
>>>>>them where they're non-compliant. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, according to the same spec [2]
>>>>>Prefixes beginning with the three-letter sequence x, m, l, in
>>>>>any case combination, are reserved for use by XML and
>>>>>XML-related specifications.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not clear if defining The "xml" prefix to have its official value
>>>>>is allowed. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>We can either replace the contents of
>>>>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ebxml-msg/schema/xml-lang.xsd
>>>>>>
> with
>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>contents of the above file, or we can update our schema and examples
>>>>>>
> to
>
>>>>use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the above URL as the schema location. I think it is simpler to do the
>>>>>>former.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Again, it would lead to some puzzled looks. I would refer to the
>>>>>official canonical location.
>>>>>
>>>>>/r$
>>>>>
>>>>>[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#nsc-NSDeclared
>>>>>[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#xmlReserved
>>>>>--
>>>>>Zolera Systems, Securing web services (XML, SOAP, Signatures,
>>>>>Encryption)
>>>>>http://www.zolera.com
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