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Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] AS4 - clarification on pulling from the default channel with no WS-Security UserName tokens


I'm guessing, Makesh, that implementation occurs at the HTTP transport
layer, correct?  Not at the AS4 message processing layer, right?  You are
talking about HTTP Basic Auth, right?

Theo's question is really about the AS4 MSH use case for the ebHandler
receiving a Pull Request with no WSSE token on the default MPC.  It would
seem at first blush based on Section 2.3.1 and 3.3 that "minimally" a pull
request is authenticated by either a WSSE username/password token -OR- the
alternative use of HTTPs client authentication of an SSL certificate
(obviously X.509 authentication is also supported).   Unlike the Minimal
Sender, which has a non-secure push scenario (presumably because the
receiver can "authenticate" using the Party-ID, et. al. in the as4 message
header), there is no provision of a "non-authenticated" pull request -- even
on the default MPC.

Is my understanding correct, here?

-----Original Message-----
From: Makesh Rao (marao) [mailto:marao@cisco.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:40 AM
To: Theo Kramer; ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] AS4 - clarification on pulling from the default
channel with no WS-Security UserName tokens

Hi Theo

We do support plain old basic auth in our implementation. This is because
some of our clients did not agree to support WS-S. They only agreed to
support the basic auth. So we built some authorization around the username
that we get access to and determine if there is a message in the default
queue.
 
~Makesh

On 5/9/13 5:34 AM, "Theo Kramer" <theo@flame.co.za> wrote:

>Hi All
>
>I'm wondering if anyone could clarify what the expected use case should 
>be when an AS4 pull signal message is received for the default MPC with 
>no WS-Security user name tokens.
>
>Possibilities could include any of the following
>
>i   Return any message stored on the default MPC for the default user as
>defined in section 4.3 of the ebms 3 core spec.
>
>ii  Return an HTTP 401 authorisation failed unknown reason.
>
>--
>Regards
>Theo
>
>
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