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Subject: Re: [egov] Re: [emergency] FYI: IBM, HP Release Proposed Web ServicesStandard
<Quote> I wonder why this effort is not being conducted within a standards body. </Quote> Excellent point Rex - and a point that applies to many other "similar" specifications (using term loosely) such as most of the GXA (Global XML Web Services Architecture) specifications (many of the WS-* specifications). There are more Web Services-related "specifications" right now within "vendor consortiums" than there are within open standards consortiums such as OASIS and W3C. Kind Regards, Joe Chiusano Rex Brooks wrote: > > Hi Carl, Everyone, > > I noticed this, too. Last week we had the eventing spec mentioned > below that included a notification element using subscription with > "event source" and "event sink" which I expressed some disapproval > for, though with some approval for as well, in the WSRP lists, > favoring instead the simpler "sender/receiver" model from a previous > paper. This week we have a notification spec. The eventual merging of > these two offerings is mentioned in the report. In particular, with > regard to how this merging is likely to occur, I wonder why this > effort is not being conducted within a standards body. > > Ciao, > Rex > > At 8:31 AM -0500 1/21/04, creed@opengis.org wrote: > >IBM, HP Release Proposed Web Services Standard Jan. 20, 2004 > > > >More Stories on: > >Software > > > >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based > >communications of events within a network of computer systems. > >By Antone Gonsalves, TechWeb News > > > >IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and other high-tech companies on Tuesday > >released a Web services specification for interoperability between > >systems within a supply chain, grid computing, and an infrastructure > >management environment. > >WS-Notification provides a mechanism for standards-based > >communications of events within a network of computer systems. > >Examples could include an application notifying another that a > >purchase order has been accepted, or that data is ready for > >download. Until recently, communicating such "events" between > >business applications was done through proprietary messaging systems. > > > >The same computing need within a web services architecture is being > >addressed by Microsoft, BEA Systems, Tibco Software, and others > >through a separate specification called WS-Eventing. IBM stressed > >that the groups aren't competing, but are taking different > >approaches. > > > >The priorities of IBM and its partners focus on allowing message > >brokers, such IBM MQSeries, to be present between the event > >publisher and the subscriber within a network, in addition to > >managing all other notifications and the end points. > > > >In addition, IBM is interested in supporting its grid-computing > >initiative, which needed notification to work. Grid computing is the > >sharing of processing power across a network so that all machines > >function as one larger supercomputer. > > > >Although Microsoft and its partners are focused on a different set > >of priorities and products, analysts expect the technologies from > >the two camps to eventually be brought together into one > >specification. "I don't believe we're going to see a battle here," > >said Ron Schmelzer, an analyst for high-tech researcher ZapThink. > > > >Karla Norsworthy, director of E-business technology for IBM, > >confirmed that IBM intends to eventually merge the specifications, > >although there's no timetable. "We're quite confident that we can > >converge these technologies," Norsworthy said. "We can figure out > >how the Eventing specification fits into the larger picture that > >we're drawing. It may require some changes to both specifications, > >and we're anxious to roll up our sleeves and get to work." > > > >In building WS-Notification, the companies incorporated integration > >with Web services management technologies under development by > >Oasis, an international standards body, and standards under > >development by the Global Grid Forum, Norsworthy said. > > > >While specification work appears to be progressing, businesses may > >have to wait a bit for product incorporating these standards. While > >the vendors plan to ship product, most are at the stage of letting > >the specifications provide the guide to their overall technology > >strategies. > > > >"IBM (for example) has a logical plan for tying all this together," > >Schmelzer said. "This specification is aimed at contributing to that > >cohesive framework." > > > >Besides WS-Notification, IBM, HP, Sonic Software, and Tibco released > >WS-Resources Framework, a description of how to handle application > >communications related to expiration of contracts and service level > >agreements, deleting products from inventory systems and other > >processes. > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > >roster of the OASIS TC), go to > >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/emergency/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > -- > Rex Brooks > GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth > W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com > Email: rexb@starbourne.com > Tel: 510-849-2309 > Fax: By Request > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php.
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