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Subject: RE: [egov] Groups - London Oasis E-gov conference added
Jon: I would agree with you but it cuts both ways: forgive me, I don't want to shoot at the messenger but this is the opportunity to sound off Many OASIS TC F2F meeting take place in the USA and use dial-in conference call facilities that are Toll Free from within the USA/Canada only. As in individual member, if it wasn't for my employer being generous, I would clock up a phone bill of $100 per dial-in meeting, and *that* is a major hurdle for participation. I guess a paid-for dial-in facility for the London meeting would be acceptable, rather than nothing at all? I have asked the OASIS Board - through John Borras during his mandate as a member - to look at "level playing field" rules for participation in all TC meetings so that there isn't such a US-bias for a supposedly global consortium. Others have phrased that rather more bluntly: only North American members complain about meeting costs when there are proposed in Europe or Asia; you never hear the complaint the other way around (which is also more frequent). All the best, Peter ------------- Peter F Brown --- Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group --- Senior Expert ICT-Strategy Unit Austrian Federal Chancellery --- Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model --- No trees were destroyed in the production of this message. Many electrons were however severely agitated. -----Original Message----- From: jon.bosak@sun.com [mailto:jon.bosak@sun.com] Sent: 30 August 2005 19:10 To: egov@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [egov] Groups - London Oasis E-gov conference added [h.j.m.burg@minfin.nl:] | SUMMARY:London Oasis E-gov conference | | DESCRIPTION:The conference is planned after the OASIS adoption forum | in The Russel Hotel London. Information about the adoption forum on | the OASIS website. The forum is not for free the TC conference is free | of charge. On TC face to face meetings no dial inn facilities will be | present anymore. OASIS members who plan to come please register via | an e-mail to the TC chair. The meeting room has a fixed capacity. The | reserve the right room it is nessesary that registration is done as | soon as possible but no later than september 30, 2005 I'm somewhat taken aback at the decision to disallow dial-ins at egov meetings. I am well aware (believe me!) of the cost and logistical difficulties of setting up telephone access to TC meetings, and even more aware of the difficulty of hearing anything from a remote location; at best, it's possible to hear only half the people physically present at the meeting, and often it's a lot worse than that. Few people will attempt to overcome these difficulties and dial in, and absent visual cues, it's often hard for remote callers to participate effectively. Having said all that, however, the fact remains that holding egov meetings without phone access means that attendance will be limited to people with generous travel budgets, i.e., some government employees and some large vendors. As a citizen, I don't much like the thought of my government employees determining public IT policy in meetings dominated by large vendors. And I think that restricting meetings to attendance in person positions the TC very poorly to cope with travel costs that will be undergoing drastic increases over the next couple of years due to the increasing cost of fuel. We should be working to overcome the obstacles presented by remote participation, not simply giving up on it. Jon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
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