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Subject: RE: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional Ignorance?
Yes - Adobe was a participant in the CDC PoC ;-) D -----Original Message----- From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:58 PM To: peter@justbrown.net Cc: 'Rex Brooks'; Duane Nickull; huml@lists.oasis-open.org; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; egov@lists.oasis-open.org; sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3; Colin.Wallis@ssc.govt.nz Subject: Re: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional Ignorance? Peter F Brown wrote: >Interesting thread: just been talking in Vienna today on exactly this sort >of use case with Edwin Bruce, head of eGov projects in the New Zealand >government. We both think that there are opportunities for collaboration in >such pilots: one only has to look at the recurrence of major seasonal >flooding in Central Europe in the last few years or the ever present >background threat of a major health pandemic, such as Avian flu...these are >all naturally cross-agency and cross-border phenomena and the ebXML >federated registry model coupled with some semantic interoperability >approach would indeed seem to fit the bill.... > This scenario is very similar to one a bunch of us collaborated on at XML 2003. Slides are at: http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/oasis-demo-xml2003.sxi http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/oasis-demo-xml2003.ppt The scenario was of Avian Flu Epidemic when it was big news in far east :-) It used ebXML Registry, ebXML Messaging, ebXML CPP/A, XForms, XACML etc. If it were done today OASIS CAP would also be included and potentially some other standards and technologies. >Peter > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >Sent: 19 September 2005 21:30 >To: Duane Nickull; Rex Brooks; huml@lists.oasis-open.org; >emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; egov@lists.oasis-open.org; >sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3 >Subject: RE: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional Ignorance? > >Thanks foor the reply, Duane, > >The pilot project I'm working on now does some of this and is a Semantic >Interoperability Rachitecture Pilot as well as being SOA in a loosely >coupled way, and we plan to use ebXML REgistry/Repository as well as many >other components. It's far from any kind of panacea, but i think it will be >a small step in the right direction. > >Regards, >Rex > >At 12:20 PM -0700 9/19/05, Duane Nickull wrote: > >>Rec: >> >>Sadly, in a previous company we proposed an architecture to the >>Canadian Government (prior to being acquired by Adobe) for a low costs >>system that would have helped alleviate some of the problems from this >>type of emergency. >> >>While dwelling on the past is important to learn lessons, I also think >>it is important to look forward and take action. The proposed system >>was registry based and would allow government and civilian entities to >>register the following via easy to use web forms: >> >>1. What types of events they wish to be notified about and when. >>Example: If there is a landslide in the Rocky Mountains that blocks a >>public highway, notify me since I am a civilian trucking company and I >>need to know this to reroute my trucks or "Tell me about potential >>hurricanes 48 hours in advance since I have to collect and evacuate >>elderly people". >> >>2. A list of anything they have that they would make available during >>an emergency. Example: I have a diesel generator and 200 gallons of >>fuel in my backyard >> >>3. Details of any services they are prepared to offer during an >>emergency (example: I have a chainsaw and can help cut through fallen >>trees. >> >>4. Details of how they can be contacted in an emergency including >>backup plans in case no infrastructure exists (example: If the phones >>are out, I will be at the corner of Haight & Ashbury. >> >>5. Workflows and procedures for emergency workers to take. >> >>The idea is that everyone who has a stake in a situation would have a >>chance to play a role. Agencies from local governments to >>international relief workers could all use it. >> >>The architecture is public record since it was submitted to the GoC as >>an RFI proposal. Anyone interested in seeing it or making use of it >>please let me know and I can forward it to them. >> >>I think systems like this would only cost around CAD $100,000 to >>implement and probably minimal $$ to keep operational. A bargain >>compared to the chaos that can result when things go wrong. >> >>The architecture used the OASIS CAP and the ebXML Registry/Repository >>standards along with other web service standards. >> >>Anyone want to build it? >> >>Duane >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:06 AM >>To: huml@lists.oasis-open.org; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; >>egov@lists.oasis-open.org; sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3 >>Subject: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional Ignorance? >> >>Hi Everyone, >> >>Please excuse the inept and mangled metaphors, but I think I have a >>concussion from being hit by this um, fiscal responsibility? >> >>I note this with considerable dismay since it looks a lot like we >>suddenly discovered that we are hemorrhaging from a leg so we are going >>to amputate our right arm as if we could somehow save the blood in that >>arm or keep it from flowing out our gashed leg. Let's ignore how much >>work that arm could do, for things like, well, tying a tourniquet >>around the wound from which we are actually bleeding? >> >>http://fcw.com/article90814-09-16-05-Web&newsletter%3Dyes >> >>Better idea. Let's rescind the minimum wage and hire all those >>displaced refugees, oops, no, they're called.... what was it? Ah yes, >>evacuees. How much more civilized can you get? I never thought >>ignorance was contagious till now. >> >>Rex >>-- >>Rex Brooks >>President, CEO >>Starbourne Communications Design >>GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison >>Berkeley, CA 94702 >>Tel: 510-849-2309 >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in >>OASIS >>at: >>https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >> > > >-- >Rex Brooks >President, CEO >Starbourne Communications Design >GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison >Berkeley, CA 94702 >Tel: 510-849-2309 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS >at: >https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS >at: >https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > -- Regards, Farrukh
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