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Subject: EKMI Monthly TC Meeting Minutes - 02/17/2009


Meeting date: February 17, 2009

Attendees:   
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Voting Members:

Arshad Noor - StrongAuth
Ken Adler - Individual
Upendra Mardikar  - Paypal
Tomas Gustaavson - PrimeKey
Anil Saldhana  - RedHat
Shahid Sharif - Individual
Tim Bruce - CA

Members:
Marc Massar - Individual
Ben Tomhave  - Individual

Observers:
Matt Ball - Sun Microsystems
Robin Cover - Oasis
 
Quorum: 7 out of 8 voting members (87%)
       
Membership Status Change:
Shahid gained Voting Rights.

Notes:

Arshad opened the meeting with a discussion of the KMIP TC charter.
He has submitted his official comments to the OASIS comments list
on the charter and encouraged others to do so, if they have an
opinion on it.  The deadline for submissions is Feb 26th at 8:45pm
PST (11:45pm EST).

Tomas G stated that KMIP overlaps with EKMI and while, officially,
the discussion is restricted to the charter submission, he is of
the personal opinion that the KMIP protocol will be very difficult
to implement.

Upendra M chose to reserve his comments until he had finished
reading the KMIP TC charter and documents.

Marc M stated that the KMIP charter overlaps with EKMI significantly.
He believes that the EKMI TC's charter is broad enough to accommodate
the KMIP as a sub-committee focused on a specific profile of SKSML
for their use-case.

Ben T stated that he was surprised that the KMIP people did not talk
to the EKMI TC before announcing their charter.

Shahid S agreed that the KMIP charter had significant overlap with
EKMI and had the potential to create a lot of confusion in the KM
market.

Tim B agreed that there was a lot of overlap with EKMI.  He is
interested in understanding what in the EKMI charter precluded the
KMIP group from joining the EKMI TC.

Anil S agreed that there was an overlap between KMIP and EKMI; he
said that the two groups should have a conversation to talk about
the creation of a single Oasis TC that focuses on KM and potentially
houses both KMIP and EKMI needs.

Ken A stated that there was not much more to add to what was already
said.  He did mention that this reinforces the perception that OASIS
creates too many standards and people get confused about which ones
to use.

Arshad stated that since the KMIP convenors did not want to talk to
the EKMI TC within the formal constraints of an OASIS TC meeting,
he would try to schedule an "off-OASIS" meeting between the two
groups.  He prefers not to go into that discussion alone since he
cannot ask all the questions that the EKMI TC will have for the KMIP
group.

Since there was consensus that the TC should continue with normal
business despite the KMIP TC charter, the following items were
discussed:

A discussion followed about the story-board created by 57 Design.
Arshad mentioned that he had received feedback from Davi Ottenheimer
about reinforcing the point about "end-to-end security" enabled by
SKSML, and Tomas G' point about the ease of implementing & using
SKSML.  Arshad will wait till Friday to submit feedback to the flash
demo creators.  TC members are encouraged to submit additional
feedback to the EKMI TC list before Friday morning.

The MSKSML group will begin its work shortly.  Upendra M will draft
a list of requirements - must-have's, nice-to-have's, etc. - for the
MSKSML profile and circulate to the TC to kick-off the discussion.

The IOAG document will be reviewed by the TC.  Tomas will focus on
the PKI section; Arshad will rewrite the SKMS section; Ben will try
to support this as best he can given his day-job constraints over the
next 3 months; Ken will start drafting the Audit part of the IOAG
document.  Other TC members are encouraged to support this in any
way they can through reviews, contributions, editorial comments, etc.

The meeting was adjourned.



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