Re: [election-services] Developing EML OSI core foundation tools

["David Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

Charbel,

Us old dogs still know good tricks.

Look forward to your assist with the work.  I'm still trying to
get my Monday sorted here - so will think more about
next steps once I get some breathing room here.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <charbel.aoun@accenture.com>
To: <david@drrw.info>; <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:42 AM
Subject: RE: [election-services] Developing EML OSI core foundation tools


Count me in David.
I am an outdated developper but happy to help with all I can.
Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: David Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 22 April 2005 17:04
To: election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [election-services] Developing EML OSI core foundation tools
Importance: High

Team,

It's been a frustrating week here in the USA, watching the machinations
of the US vendors and stakeholders as part of the HAVA/TGDC process; the
State officials are panicing about compliance for the 2006 elections,
and NIST has not been able to stand up a make real recommendations
without anything first being approved by the vendor engineering teams!

Essentially all attempts at introduce real progress on trusted
mechanisms at the foundation of the voting process have been stymied.
Along with attempts to introduce EML XML as even an optional solution
for implementing in obvious areas of the process - such as voting
records themselves.

Example - VVPAT has made promising progress legislatively - with over 20
Sates having pending legislation to require it.

Enter the vendors - with their minimalist market-driven thinking.
Upshot is proprietary plexi-glass sealed printers that capture voting
logs into the a sealed bin as part of the DRE unit.
Needless to say these units are an order of magnitude more expensive
than a regular simple printer.

And sealed pritners fails true VVPAT on multiple levels; fails to
enspire any trust whatsoever for voters (just more of the same in terms
of hidden process); and also fails many of the principles of OASIS EML
around voter privacy, etc, that came from the EU requirements.  Apart
from those singificant short comings - the way the US is intending to
allow VVPAT to be implemented is a marvellous idea...

The long and the short of this is that it has become clear to me that
OASIS EML next requires a solution toolkit that is open source.

We have learned this from ebXML Registry and ebXML Messaging.
Both have OSI foundation components - that solution providers can then
take and deliver commercial solutions by tailoring to their local
marketplace needs.

I would therefore like to hear from members here who would like to work
with us here in the USA (the IEEE team and the OVC
- Open Voting Consortium - http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/)
and develop this as a SourceForge project.

I would also be interested in seeing if we can get EU funding for this,
and or donations of existing code components to form the underpinning.

I'm suspecting that new EU member countries especially would benefit
from a collaborative development effort to get this code out there.
Also - does say the UK government own rights to code it has funded
already - that could form an initial 'seed' here?

A resource site hosted by the EU would also be great - but we could also
use OASIS resources to host a developer discuss list - again OASIS is
already running several of those.

Assuming that Java is the target environment maybe http://www.jEML.org
if it is available - or similar - is what I'm envisioning here.

Thoughts?

Any takers out there?

Thanks, DW


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