RE: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

["Paul Spencer" <paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk>]



I think we need to refactor it into a data model while there are still some people around who really understand what is already there and how it is used. I suspect we may already be in a position where no one person understands it all. But we come back to the problem that those who understand it best work for small businesses that can't afford the unpaid time, while those with the money do not have the qualified staff or the willingness to pay others.

 

 Refactoring will make things more understandable and lead to some changes to the schemas. This may not be a huge task as the definitions used are pretty consistent. If using CAM helps the process, that is great.

 

Regards

 

Paul

-----Original Message----- 
From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 19 October 2008 20:35
To: Paul Spencer
Cc: John Borras; EML TC
Subject: RE: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

Paul,

 

I'm just brainstorming here - not sure if it could all work or not - but...

 

If we scan all our current EML XSD into CAM templates - then we can potentially run XSLT against those to in some way decompose that into a data model... dumping out the dependencies and classifications.

 

This is not as good as a new data model - but it should produce a better cross view of what we have already...

 

At least it would be a reasonable work product for v6 - not involve a ton of manual work - and provide a useful basis when we do have time to refactor completely...

 

Also - I think CIQ V3 is a huge improvement - and just going to that will simplify the data model significantly...

 

Thanks, DW

 

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?
From: "Paul Spencer" <paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk>
Date: Sun, October 19, 2008 5:57 pm
To: "John Borras" <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>, "EML TC"
<election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>



John,

 

If we are to look at putting a proper data model in place (it is one of the items on the list), it would be best to do that when there is no pressing need to get a release out quickly. So I would be in favour for that reason.

 

Regards

 

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 19 October 2008 13:44
To: EML TC
Subject: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

Rather disappointingly I have had only one response to my enquiry about EML v6.   I hope this is because everybody is busy with the USA elections rather than lack of interest .....-)

 

So even though the one vote was in favour of starting work we clearly don't have a consensus so I'll park it until after we get the outcome of the ISO ballot.  Note the date for that has still not been set.

 

Regards
John

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Skype: gov3john

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: David RR Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info>
To: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008 2:53:37
Subject: RE: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

John,

 

Given everything else that is going on - I'd say it is an opportune moment for us to move forward with V6.

 

Looking thru the list I'd like to add placeholders for new polling place and registration transactions to support the VIP area of work, and also add a note to look at military voting needs.  At this point I'm not sure what these may end up being implemented as - but when we look more I'm sure we will understand these better.

 

Thanks, DW

 

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?
From: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, October 07, 2008 9:15 am
To: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>

Sorry the attached is the latest version of the Wishes List.
 

Regards
John

M. +44 (0)7976 157745
Skype: gov3john

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
To: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 October, 2008 14:08:23
Subject: EML V6?

As you are aware we have submitted EML v5 to ISO/JTC1 for approval and I had said that we should await any further work on EML until the outcome of that process was complete to avoid confusion.  The latest news I have is that JTC1 have still not set a date for their ballot and so it's still likely to be several months before we know whether we have ISO status or not.  There's nothing we can do about that, even though Jamie Bryce is continually pressing them, as they dictate their work priorities.

 

Given that I wonder whether there is any pressing need, and any appetite, to start work on a v6.  Attached is the Wishes List I have so far and I'd welcome views please on whether you wish to make a start or if you are content to await the outcome of the JTC1 process.  Probably item 2 on the List is the biggest and most important task for us and is needed to assist implementations. If the consensus is to start work then I will convene a TC telecon to discuss the next steps.
 

Regards
John

M. +44 (0)7976 157745
Skype: gov3john

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