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Subject: Re: [emergency-comment] Re: ITU and Using CAP with "Digital Signage"


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On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:47 PM, JD Hamilton <tractorfax@ymail.com> wrote:

Yet, NIMS STEP evaluated vendor product TractorFax V2.3 sits idle (and deployment ready) in the NIMS Tech Lab: that too remains embarrassing! 

Jerome "JD" (John Deere) Hamilton, CEO (RET.)

TractorFax COLLABORATIVE Resource Management Tool

Tele: 501-259-5007 

Friendly, prime-time Public-Private Partnerships  :-)  

Business references:  www.rkb.us 
Enter in key search word box "TractorFax". 






On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:09 PM, "Elysa Jones" <elysajones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Tony,

 

Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention in the OASIS EM-TC.  CAP is a well-established, internationally adopted standard for alerting that easily accommodates messages for digital signage.  It has been used for many years to disseminate alert and notification details to all types of last mile devices to include digital road signs. 

 

Please let me know if there is something more we should do to broaden knowledge of the availability and extensibility of CAP.

 

Kind regards,

 

Elysa Jones, Chair OASIS

Emergency Management Technical Committee (EM-TC)

 

From: Tony Rutkowski [mailto:tony@yaanatech.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:58 AM
To: Christian, Eliot; Elysa Jones
Cc: Haleh Kootval; Jason Bier; Meryl Stone; emergency-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [emergency-comment] Re: ITU and Using CAP with "Digital Signage"

 

Hi Christian,

Thanks for the dissemination here.

The Study Group 16 rapporteur responsible for
this work item responded with the somewhat
difficult to understand note below.  He also
references some obscure PCP-TDR group
that seems to have last met in 2006.
http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/pcptdr/Pages/default.aspx
The last email on their list was in 2010.

My tenor was somewhat harsh, but the
group involved here - ETRI - seems to
simply develop its own agendas and work
and simply does what it wants oblivious
to anyone else. It may require some
substantial OASIS or governmental
pressure here to underscore that the
protocol and services originate in
OASIS, and they have an obligation
to collaborate before doing anything.

--tony


Thank you for your profound suggestions.
I am a Rapporteur of Q14/16, and added Cc: to WP2/16 Chiarman 
Mr Jeong because of importance of this correspond. 
 
Firlstlly, Q14/16 highly respect CAP, and does not intend 
to make a document opposed to CAP.
New work item plan to be one of specifications of out-of-home 
services applying CAP specifications.
As you mentioned-below, Q14/16 alone can not dealt with critical 
disseminating protcols like CAP. 
The new work item will study mechanisms to treat information
limited to the small domain where a digital signage terminal 
is installed in.
 
The _expression_ of the editor's note seems to make you confused, 
Q14/16 has beforehand surveyed relevant specification including 
CAP within another work item "Digital signage: Requiremetns of 
disaster information services" (TD 125-WP2/16).
 
https://www.itu.int/md/dologin_md.asp?lang=en&id=T13-SG16-131028-TD-WP2-0125!!MSW-E
 
Q14/16 reviewed at least documents in the context of Telecommunications 
for Disaster Relief and Mitigation - Partnership Co-ordination Panel 
(PCP-TDR) including ITU-T, ETSI and OASIS. Therefore meaning of the 
editor's note is "review the specifications again carefully from the 
view points of providing local services."
 
Q14/16 also wants to make and keep good harmonization with Q4/17 
and Q11/17 and SG2.
 
BR,
Tanikawa


On 11/7/2013 3:18 AM, Christian, Eliot wrote:

Dear Elysa,

As you know, the CAP standard, maintained by OASIS, is also ITU Recommendation X.1303

and one of our key contacts in the ITU is Tony Rutkowski. In his note, quoted below, Tony wants to immediately draw attention to a proposed Work Item in ITU Study Group 15, Multimedia (SG 16). This Work Item concerns how CAP is used with "Digital Signage".


Digital Signage refers to public displays

(e,g, large LED screens used as billboards) that are increasingly installed in public areas such as highways, storefronts, airports, and gas pumps, among many others. As noted in the proposed Work Item (attached), "digital signage can play a crucial role in providing...multimedia-based alerting information".

The SG16 website notes: "A large push for standardized digital signage solutions came after the Great East Japan Earthquake and Tsunami in 2011".


Although the

CAP standard focuses on alerting content rather than on multimedia display, there are

many cases where CAP messages are already used with digital signage.

Please respond to Tony (and cc to me) to let him know his concerns are shared

. Hopefully he can persuade those involved to fix the immediate problem here.

Eliot


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Tony Rutkowski <tony@yaanatech.com>
wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I apologize for the widely dispersed note here, but SG16 is
>finishing up its work on Friday, and what appears to be an appalling
>lack of collaboration is occurring here that will have multiple
>undesirable results.  It is also highly embarrassing.
>
>The Common Alerting Protocol has been developed and pursued by
>OASIS - which in turn has been a coordinating point for much of
>the emergency alerting community, including the WMO.  SG17 has
>facilitated that work by republishing CAP as X.1303.  I was the
>rapporteur and editor during much of that period - which has now
>been taken on by Youki Kadobayashi.
>
>In reviewing work occurring at the current SG16 meeting,
>I discovered several proposals for new work items introduced by
>ETRI into the meeting relating to many key components of CAP
>implementations.  The attached item a Common Alerting Service
>Framework and associated authentication was apparently approved
>by Q14/16 at their meeting this week.
>
>Amazingly, there is an editor's note that "it is necessary to
>survey both disaster relevant ITU-T Recommendations and other
>SDO’s specifications."  That should have been done before moving
>forward with any of this SG16 work, and it should have involved
>engagement with the CAP community!
>
>None of the SG16 work on CAP or disaster warning services should
>go forward, these work items should be halted by the SG16 Plenary.
>Much of the work described is already being done within multiple
>forums of the CAP/disaster warning community.
>
>If SG16 desires to be engaged here, it needs to first enter into
>collaboration with Q4/17 and Q11/17 which have been the points
>of contact in the ITU-T, and well as the larger community external
>to the ITU-T.  It is worth noting that SG2 is also involved with
>its E.tdr work item and the editor, Ron Roman, is copied.
>
>Important public safety work of this nature must be done
>collaboratively.
>
>best, tony

 



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