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Subject: RE: [emergency-msg] Confusion about RM location elements


Cool.

I'm glad we are such an agreeable lot.

Cheers,
Rex

At 11:55 AM +1100 1/31/07, Karen Robinson wrote:
>
>Carl, thank you very much for responding so quickly - and for the 
>new version of the OASIS GML Profile document.  It's great to hear 
>you will be able to join Thursday's teleconference.
>
>Patti - I agree with your proposal.  I was wondering myself whether 
>we really need to retain the "CIQInformation" structure as it is, 
>considering we use only the Party information within the 
>ContactInformation package and Address information within the 
>Location package.
>
>Karen.
>
>
>
>From: Carl Reed OGC Account [mailto:creed@opengeospatial.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 2:19 AM
>To: Karen Robinson; emergency-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: Re: [emergency-msg] Confusion about RM location elements
>
>All -
>
>Apologies for having "disappeared" for the last several weeks. 
>Events have overtaken me in terms of travel and OGC related project 
>work. Now that I have finished the IETF GML Geoshape Application 
>Schema and it has been formally approved by the OGC and the IETF, 
>time to move onto the OASIS GML Profile.
>
>The OGC members provided some help to me on the OASIS GML Profile 
>but I am not an XML expert by any flight of fancy. Also, I have been 
>coordinating with a related NIEM effort to hopefully insure some 
>harmonization with that work. However, this may be somewhat 
>difficult in that a geospatial.xsd that conforms to NIEM naming and 
>design rules has wrapper types (and occasionally proxy global 
>elements) for geospatial types defined in "external" 
>standards-based geospatial schemas.
>
>That said, I do have newer .xsd files and will be updating the 
>actual document this week.
>
>Finally, it would be nice to make sure that the OASIS geometry 
>definitions are aligned with those used in other standards 
>organizations - a also with KML :-) A note on the last comment: 
>Google has offered to bring KML into the OGC to become an OGC Best 
>Practices document AND to harmonize KML with the OGC/ISO Coordinate 
>Reference System (CRS) standards and the GML 3.1.1 Geometry schemas. 
>KML currently uses GML 2.1.2 for expressing geometry (although the 
>GML namespace is never referenced). And KML also uses CIQ/xAL for 
>addressing (without referencing the OASIS namespace).
>
>Regards
>
>Carl
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:Karen.Robinson@nicta.com.au>Karen Robinson
>To: 
><mailto:emergency-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>emergency-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:59 PM
>Subject: [emergency-msg] Confusion about RM location elements
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>I'm in the process of updating the RM message schemas and examples, 
>and checking consistency with the latest version of the matrix and 
>data dictionary.  I'm confused about the location elements.  The 
>data dictionary lists the sub-elements of Location as being:
>
>-          LocationDescription
>-          ExplicitAddress (with sub-elements ExplicitAddressScheme 
>& ExplicitAddressValue - both strings)
>-          TargetArea (with sub-elements Circle, Polygon, Country, 
>Subdivision, LocCodeUN - all strings)
>
>However, I was previously under the impression that we were using a 
>combination of CIQ addresses and the OASIS GML profile?  The 
>CommonTypes schema lists the following as the sub-elements of 
>Location:
>
>-          Description
>-          CIQInformation (with sub-elements Party and Address - 
>probably only Address is needed in this context)
>-          geo-oasis:where (with sub-elements Point, LineString, 
>Polygon & Envelope)
>
>Could somebody please clarify for me the latest decision about these 
>elements?  In my opinion, if we are using CIQ for addresses in the 
>ContactInformation package, we should stick with CIQ addresses for 
>Location, for the sake of consistency.  Also, representing circles, 
>polygons, etc. with strings does not seem like a good solution.  The 
>alternative is to use the OASIS GML profile - however this has 
>errors in it and does not seem to have been updated for a while 
>(does anyone know what is happening with this?).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Karen.
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