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Subject: Re: [emergency] Fwd: OASIS EM TC Category for EDXL standards


Might the promulgation and ongoing maintenance of a recommended  
standards profile fall within the scope of NIEM?  Could the grant  
language simply reference such a listing?

- Art


On Sep 19, 2005, at 6:44 AM, Elysa Jones wrote:

> Art and others,
> I met last week with the DM program and the EIC and we discussed  
> this topic.  There is guidance in the works for grant programs as  
> well for other federal agencies to use.  The particular draft that  
> was circulated to the TC members was very preliminary.  All agreed  
> that making EIC membership a requirement and forcing DMIS was not  
> in the best interest of anyone.  The main reason for Bill Kalin  
> sending the message was to ask if we or someone at OASIS had run  
> into this naming issue before.  That is, a way to reference several  
> standards all in the same discipline but on different upgrade and  
> development paths.  He was particularly interested in getting some  
> wording from us that would reference the work being done now  
> including versions to follow as well as additional EDXL emerging  
> standards.  They seem to want to avoid listing each separately and  
> are concerned about versions getting out of date.  Any suggestions?
> Elysa Jones, Chair
> OASIS EM-TC
> Engineering Program Manager
> Warning Systems, Inc.
> 256-880-8702 x102
>
> At 05:19 PM 9/18/2005, Art Botterell wrote:
>
>> This strikes me as the wrong way to do the right thing.  Certainly
>> there should be grant guidance language that promotes the use of open
>> standards and even perhaps particular ones.
>>
>> But this has the regrettable appearance of an attempt to carve out
>> some bureaucratic turf for EIC and the DM program, by designating
>> them as the sole legitimate source of such standards... even before
>> those standards are identified, evaluated or even created.
>>
>> I would think that an eclectic profile of recommended standards,
>> drawing from all the available sources and updated from time to time
>> as new standards are formalized and old ones are updated, would be
>> much more in the inclusive spirit of NEIM.
>>
>> And from a more tactical point of view, I think it could actually be
>> damaging to the current positive reception and uptake of CAP within
>> its target domain (alerting and warning) to complicate things by
>> confusing it with the much broader, and as yet much less mature, EDXL
>> program.
>>
>> For some time now our workplan has been to continue to promote and
>> develop CAP separately while EDXL develops and mature, and then to
>> create a fully EDXL-compliant version at CAP 2.0.
>>
>> I don't believe OASIS or the TC ought to change that approach for
>> what appear to be merely bureaucratic reasons.  Funding guidance
>> language certainly could be written to include CAP and EDXL
>> specifically without conflating the two prematurely or preemptively
>> excluding other potential sources of valuable standards.
>>
>> Aside from being bad practice technically, I don't think OASIS and
>> this TC want to get embroiled in external jurisdictional issues...
>> especially not at a time where the whole current structure of
>> emergency management is undergoing so much scrutiny at the highest
>> policy levels.
>>
>> - Art
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2005, at 9/12/05 3:25 PM, Elysa Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>>> TC Members,  I received the following email from Bill Kalin
>>> representing the DHS/DM program.  There is specific grant guidance
>>> language proposed for our review.  I would prefer discussion begin
>>> on the list and then we can take it up at the next regular TC call
>>> 9/20.  Elysa
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Kalin, Bill" <Bill.Kalin@associates.dhs.gov>
>>>> To: "'ejones@warningsystems.com'" <ejones@warningsystems.com>
>>>> Cc: Matt Walton <mwalton3@gmail.com>, "Hines, Chip"
>>>> <Chip.Hines@dhs.gov>,
>>>>         "Baker, Ashley" <Ashley.Baker@associates.dhs.gov>,
>>>>         "McIntyre, Robert" <Robert.Mcintyre@associates.dhs.gov>,
>>>>         "Wood, Mark" <Mark.Wood@associates.dhs.gov>
>>>> Subject: OASIS EM TC Category for EDXL standards
>>>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:11:51 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Elysa - We have been asked by the Office of Management and Budget
>>>> (OMB) to create standardized RFI/RFP language that federal
>>>> agencies would required to use when seeking to purchase an
>>>> incident management software application.  We want to be able to
>>>> refer to EDXL as a single set of standards as opposed to listing
>>>> them all individually, including CAP.  This is the first step in
>>>> creating common grant guidance language that will be required when
>>>> local, tribal and state governments are seeking to purchase
>>>> incident management tools with DHS grant money.  We believe this
>>>> will strongly facilitate the adoption of standards within the
>>>> vendor community and further develop this emerging market.
>>>>
>>>> What can be done via OASIS to help create this single type of
>>>> category under the OASIS TC?  I am attaching a draft of proposed
>>>> language for the RFI/RFP's which includes a desired reference to
>>>> the OASIS web site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill Kalin
>>>> Disaster Management eGov Initiative
>>>> Office of the Chief Information Officer
>>>> Emergency Preparedness and Response/FEMA
>>>> Department of Homeland Security
>>>> (202) 646-4347
>>>> bill.kalin@associates.dhs.gov
>>>>
>>> <Purchase_Guidance_DM.doc>
>>>
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