Re: [emergency] Draft TC Letter on HazCollect

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

While I understand the point with regard to the word "compliant" and 
the implications of a testing regimen to back it, I think we could 
use the words "conformant" or "non-conformant" and qualify that use 
by saying that it indicates that all mandatory elements indicated by 
"MUST" in the specification are implemented or not when "conformance" 
or "non-conformance" is used in regard to a given implementation. We 
should probably also acknowledge the current (temporary?) lack of a 
certification program backed by a rigorous "compliance testing" 
regimen.

Cheers,
Rex



At 6:33 PM -0600 6/13/06, Carl Reed OGC Account wrote:
>My one concern is the use of the phrase, "non-compliant 
>implementation". What is a compliant implementation? In the 
>standards world, compliance suggests a rigorous testing framework in 
>which assertions (rules) as specified in the standard are 
>specifically tested against a given implementation. The OGC has 
>almost 4 years experience in building and providing compliance 
>testing for a number of our core standards. This framework 
>determines that a product implementation of a particular 
>Specification fulfills all mandatory elements as specified and that 
>these elements are operable. There is significant value to an 
>organization or vendor in having their implementation of a given 
>standard pass a compliance test.
>
>I am not trying to be overly sticky on the semantics, but if I were 
>on the NOAA side, I would ask the question "and what exactly do you 
>mean by compliance?"
>
>Also, just to stir the pot a bit, even compliance does not insure 
>interoperability. Interoperability testing is a whole other topic.
>
>OGC is not the only organization that provide compliance testing. So 
>does ISO, IEEE, the ITU, and many other standards organizations.
>
>Regards
>
>Carl
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Elysa Jones" <ejones@warningsystems.com>
>To: <emergency@lists.oasis-open.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [emergency] Draft TC Letter on HazCollect
>
>>sorry - forgot the attachment.
>>
>>At 05:29 PM 6/13/2006, Elysa Jones wrote:
>>>Hi TC members,
>>>
>>>Per our telecon today, please find a round 2 draft of a letter to
>>>NOAA about their implementation of HazCollect.  Comment to the list
>>>on this draft.  I would like to schedule a call for the purpose of
>>>finalizing this letter for 12:30 EDT, Wed.  Along with your comments
>>>let me know of your availability for that call.  The EIC meeting
>>>will begin at 1:00 and I would like to have this letter in final
>>>form and approved by a majority of our voting membership by that
>>>time.  If you are a voting member and are going to be at the
>>>meeting, just be there at 12:30 instead of 1:00.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Elysa Jones, Chair
>>>OASIS EM-TC
>>>Engineering Program Manager
>>>Warning Systems, Inc.
>>>
>>>PS - EIC meeting 1-3 EDT, Call in details:  712-425-2000 code:  20002#
>>>
>>>
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