RE: [emergency] Groups - EDXL/CAP Routing Concepts and Issues(OASIS Input of Routing Concepts IEPD Version 0.4.pdf)uploaded

["Ron Lake" <rlake@galdosinc.com>]

Hi,

I don't disagree with that - it is just a question of being able to be
more accurate in expressing the semantics of Area in the CAP protocol -
it seems this issue has come up before ..

R

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Tincher [mailto:ltincher@evotecinc.com] 
Sent: November 30, 2007 2:10 PM
To: 'Art Botterell'; Ron Lake; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org;
dellis@sandia.gov
Subject: RE: [emergency] Groups - EDXL/CAP Routing Concepts and
Issues(OASIS Input of Routing Concepts IEPD Version 0.4.pdf)uploaded

I am in complete agreement with Art's statement below - this should be a
DE
function....

Thanks,

Lee

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-----Original Message-----
From: Art Botterell [mailto:ABott@so.cccounty.us] 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:59 PM
To: rlake@galdosinc.com; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org;
dellis@sandia.gov
Subject: Re: [emergency] Groups - EDXL/CAP Routing Concepts and
Issues(OASIS
Input of Routing Concepts IEPD Version 0.4.pdf)uploaded

Even before that there's the question of whether routing information, as
distinct from hazard-descriptive information, belongs in CAP at all.
Maybe,
as was suggested earlier, routing should be handled in the DE instead.  

I think that might make sense, since any routing directive that's
different
from the hazard area is an artifact of some policy or infrastructure
constraint that may well come from some entity other than the
originator.
If we put such third-party instructions  in the CAP structure itself,
that
could force a lot of avoidable re-signings of the core message.  (Plus
it
would create an unnecessary duplication of function with the DE.)

- Art
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: "Ron Lake" <rlake@galdosinc.com> 
To:  <emergency@lists.oasis-open.org> 
To:  <dellis@sandia.gov> 
 
Sent: 11/30/2007 12:47:47 PM 
Subject: RE: [emergency] Groups - EDXL/CAP Routing Concepts and Issues
(OASIS Input of Routing   Concepts IEPD Version 0.4.pdf) uploaded 
 
Hi, 
 
This speaks to the need to have a property concept (as in GML) that
expresses the role of the geometry (area) in relation to the feature
(event)
of interest. This would deal directly with the question raised. 
 
In GML one would make use of a property name something as follows: 
 
	<abc:Alert gml:id="p1454"> 
		<abc:impactArea> .. polygon .. </abc:impactArea> 
		<abc:alertArea> ... polygon ... </abc:alertArea> 
	</abc:Alert> 
 
Cheers 
 
R 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: dellis@sandia.gov [mailto:dellis@sandia.gov]  
Sent: November 30, 2007 12:21 PM 
To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org 
Subject: [emergency] Groups - EDXL/CAP Routing Concepts and Issues
(OASIS
Input of Routing Concepts IEPD Version 0.4.pdf) uploaded 
 
The document named EDXL/CAP Routing Concepts and Issues (OASIS Input of 
Routing Concepts IEPD Version 0.4.pdf) has been submitted by David Ellis
to 
the OASIS Emergency Management TC document repository. 
 
Document Description: 
The current CAP standard requires the use of the "area" and sub elements
to 
be the union of all Area blocks.  This raises a problem for systems
which 
actual do GeoSpatial and GeoPolicitcal (Jurisdictional) routing of CAP 
messages.  The lack of ability to label one area block as the "true"
area 
for alerting target population AOW (headline, instruction etc.) and
another 
area block as the time evolving plume from a "Hazmat" event (AOH) makes 
meaningful use of CAP standard very difficult.  
 
View Document Details: 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/emergency/document.php?docu
ment
_id=26274 
 
Download Document:   
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/emergency/download.php/2627
4/OA
SIS%20Input%20of%20Routing%20Concepts%20IEPD%20Version%200.4.pdf 
 
 
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