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Subject: RE: [emergency] CAP v1.2 implementation Difficulties


I've talked to Gary as well.  I agree that this would be much better than
the current proposed implementation.  

Does it warrant another month of reviews?  I'll leave that one up to you
guys...

Thanks,
Lee

Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the
public and have no self.  - Cyril Connolly


-----Original Message-----
From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:17 AM
To: Gary Ham
Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; ARTHUR C III CTR DISA JITC BOTTERELL;
Neil C Bourgeois
Subject: Re: [emergency] CAP v1.2 implementation Difficulties

Thanks for the prompt reply, Gary H,

I read through the recommended change, and although I would like to hear 
what Art, Jacob, Don M, Jeff W, Dave E and Lee T think, along with any 
others who wish to pipe up, I think I could live with it. Either 
adopting this change or dropping the <any>s in favor of the CAP v1.1 
formulation will still require a new Review Process, so unless someone 
can show me how this would not require a new 60-Day Review, we're still 
looking at a substantial delay. The good news is that I don't think this 
would require a change in the CAPv1.2-IPAWS Profile.

Cheers,
Rex

Gary Ham wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Based on Neil's difficulties with Web service compilers, Gary Timm's 
> message, and on Rex Brook's response asking for a solution that does 
> not break the ability to make the change a 1.2 version vice forcing 
> 2.0 , I decided maybe we should in fact look at a solution that does 
> work as a 1.2 change.  We have tested this with out a problem and know 
> that it works.   The basic concept is to encapsulate the <any> tags 
> within optional identified tags to isolate them from multi-namespace 
> issues.  (For backward compatibility we could also leave the current 
> 1.1 <any> tag in place, but we would not make any use of it.)
>
> I know it is late in the game.  But the following change would make 
> signing work in web services and middleware validation points far more 
> effectively than the current structure of CAP 1.2.  That and a 
> requirement that message signature use XML canonical form (as required 
> in the DE) and we could guarantee success across the network. Neil has 
> tested this change and it does work.
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Gary
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>>
>> *From:* Bourgeois, Neil 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:13 PM
>> *To:* Gary Ham
>> *Subject:* CAPv1.2 Web-Service Implementation Challenges
>>  
>> Gary,
>> We are experiencing Web-service implementation issues with the 
>> CAPv1.2 schema. DM-OPEN is currently using Oracle 10g application 
>> server and Oracle 10g assembler to generate Web-Services.  DM-OPEN is 
>> also leveraging JAXB2 and its capabilities in binding XML to Java 
>> classes.
>>  
>> Here are the following issues:
>> 1) With the two <any.../> tags the Oracle Assembler generates a 
>> single Alert object as a SOAP Element. This will require a 
>> significant amount of rework to upgrade the current CAPv1.1 
>> Web-Service to CAPv1.2.
>> 2) JAXB will not compile. Get response that "Any element has already 
>> been defined".
>>  
>> Recommendation to resolve these issue is to place <any.../> elements 
>> within their own element. This is also a more mature schema structure.
>>  
>> Have similar Web-Service implementation issues been experienced by 
>> other developers?
>>  
>>  
>> Neil Bourgeois
>> /Cell: 703-732-6331/
>>  
>>  
>> Original Schema:
>>         </element>
>>                 <any minOccurs = "0" maxOccurs = "unbounded" 
>> namespace = "http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig# 
>> <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig>" processContents = "lax"/>
>>                 <any minOccurs = "0" namespace = 
>> "http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmlenc# 
>> <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmlenc>" processContents = "lax"/>
>>       </sequence>
>>     </complexType>
>>   </element>
>>   <element name = "valueName" type = "xs:string"/>
>>   <element name = "value" type = "xs:string"/>
>> </schema>
>>  
>> Recommended Change:
>>         </element>
>>         <element ref="cap:Signature"/>
>>         <element ref="cap:Encoding"/>
>>       </sequence>
>>     </complexType>
>>   </element>
>>   <element name="Signature">
>>   <complexType>
>>     <sequence>
>>       <any minOccurs = "0" maxOccurs = "unbounded" namespace = 
>> "http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig# 
>> <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig>" processContents = "lax"/>
>>     </sequence>
>>   </complexType>
>>   </element>
>>   <element name="Encoding">
>>   <complexType>
>>     <sequence>
>>       <any minOccurs = "0" namespace = 
>> "http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmlenc# 
>> <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmlenc>" processContents = "lax"/>
>>     </sequence>
>>   </complexType>
>>   </element>
>>   <element name = "valueName" type = "xs:string"/>
>>   <element name = "value" type = "xs:string"/>
>> </schema>
>>  
>
> Gary Ham
> Systems Architect
> FEMA Disaster Management Program
> 703-899-6241
>
>
> Gary Ham
> http://grandpaham.com
> 703-899-6241
>
>
>

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Rex Brooks
President, CEO
Starbourne Communications Design
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Berkeley, CA 94702
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