RE: [emergency] RE: EDXL-HAVE spec questions

[ltincher@evotecinc.com]

I am not at a computer right now - but I cannot stress enough that this is
NOT about the examples.  The SChema no longer allows Triage Codes the way
they are outlined in the spec....

Thanks,
Lee

> Elysa,   This illustrates why it is a very bad idea to put example XML in
> the specification.  Sigh.     OASIS needs to stop doing this - and make
> examples external to the document - in the same way as XSD artifacts are.
>  Please tell them to go with what the xsd Schema is telling them the XML
> should be - and NOT the specification examples.   On their second point -
> Bed capacities - I too had puzzled over a good way to use this.  I agree
> with their call to use only BedType and ignore SubCategoryBedType.   It
> may help them to quickly load the EDXL schema into the CAM toolkit
> (sourceforge.net/projects/camprocessor) and then generate XML examples and
> documentation - so they can construct the exchange XML that they need.
> =====================================================   "It only allows
> zero or more  elements, followed by zero or more  elements, followed by
> zero or more  elements.
>
> I can't figure out how to properly represent or interpret bed capacities
> in this structure.  Can you advise on the correct method?  If it is true
> that this just doesn't work as intended, should we decide to use only  and
> avoid the use of  in the EDXL-HAVE Haiti Profile?"
>  Thanks, DW      -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [emergency] RE: EDXL-HAVE spec questions
> From: Elysa Jones
> Date: Mon, March 01, 2010 8:29 am
> To: "Lee Tincher" ,"'Ka-Ping Yee'"
> , "'Bill Lang'"
> Cc: "'Roni Zeiger'" , "'Martin Omander'"
> , ,"'Gusty, Denis'"
> , "'William Kalin'"
>
> Sukumar, as editor of HAVE, can you respond to this ASAP?  I'm less
> concerned about "process" at this time than getting these folks what they
> need to be able to exchange HAVE messages in Hati.  Please respond.  Elysa
>
> At 06:14 AM 3/1/2010, Lee Tincher wrote:
>
>  Ka-Ping,
>
> You are correct in all points on the new Errata.  I have been in contact
> with OASIS to get this clarified/fixed ASAP.  The PR4 errata does not have
> many of these errors (but has some other ones)…
>
> All – we need this clarified as soon as we can – this is excessively
> important to the success of HAVE in the Haiti response.
>
> Thanks,
> Lee
>
> Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the
> public and have no self.  - Cyril Connolly
>
> From: Ka-Ping Yee [ mailto:kpy@google.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:27 AM
> To: Lee Tincher; Bill Lang
> Cc: Roni Zeiger; Martin Omander
> Subject: EDXL-HAVE spec questions
>
> Hello Lee,
> I've run into a couple of problems with the EDXL specification, and was
> hoping you could help out?
>
> This is the document I'm using:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/emergency/edxl-have/os/emergency_edxl_have-1.0-spec-os.pdf
>
> (This is the link listed at
> http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/index.php#edxlhave.)
>
> And this is the XSD schema I'm using:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/emergency/edxl-have/os/edxl-have-os.xsd
>
>
>
> First, a few things that look like simple typos in the EDXL-HAVE example
> document (Appendix A):
>
> 1. The  element seems to be in the wrong order.  According to the schema,
> it seems it should appear between  and , not after .  Can you confirm?
>
> 2. The example has a  element, but there is no such XML element in the
> schema.  According to the schema, it seems that  and  should be immediate
> children of  .  Can you confirm?
>
> 3. The example has a  element, but there is no such XML element in the
> schema.  According to the schema, it seems that  and  should be immediate
> children of .  Can you confirm?
>
> 4. The example has a  element, which I assume is a typographic error and
> should be .  Can you confirm?
>
>
> Second, though, a more concerning problem with the BedCapacity section
> (Section 3.2.4):
>
> The text, and example 1, suggest that the  element should contain a (, )
> pair, followed by any number of (, ) pairs.
>
> However, example 1 doesn't validate.  The XSD schema doesn't allow for
> this structure; it only allows zero or more  elements, followed by zero or
> more  elements, followed by zero or more  elements.
>
> I can't figure out how to properly represent or interpret bed capacities
> in this structure.  Can you advise on the correct method?  If it is true
> that this just doesn't work as intended, should we decide to use only  and
> avoid the use of  in the EDXL-HAVE Haiti Profile?
>
>
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
>
> ­ Ping
> Technical Lead, Google Person Finder
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