Re: [emergency] NIEM/EDXL Proposals in Support of DHS Funding

[Rex Brooks <rex.brooks@ncoic.org>]

Thanks Elysa,

I agree with everything you say, and I guess I didn't clarify one point: 
I think that focusing on CAP profiles as the example to use to show 
NIEM-EDXL working together was specifically offered by Doug. For myself, 
I would prefer to use a more clear cut example that isn't part of other 
ongoing work. However, I also don't want to let one-too-many projects 
become a problem, so it might well be best to wait on the example of 
NIEM-EDXL mutual support until after we have settled the profiles 
issues. I concur with your call for participation in in RIM SC meeting 
12-1 ET June 28, next week.

Cheers,
Rex

On 6/20/2012 6:09 AM, Elysa Jones wrote:
> Thank you Rex for your email summary, to Jeff for conducting the EM-TC
> meeting yesterday in my absence and to you all for the good work you do in
> our committees and subcommittees!!
>
> There are certainly ways where EDXL and NIEM with proper motivation can
> coexist, support one another and achieve data interoperability.  I am very
> familiar with the white paper you describe and appreciate the good work done
> by Lee, Tim, Gary, Don and others in that group to document a possible
> solution.  I have reached out to Dr. Griffin with Doug's introduction and
> look forward to his response.
>
> To the point on CAP profiles being taken up by the collateral and documents
> SC, I would prefer that we follow our normal path for assigning work to the
> SCs.  It is my opinion that first the topic (which is now properly agreed to
> be assigned to the RIM-SC by the EM-TC) for guidance have a meeting engaging
> all interested parties.  There are several things that need to come from
> that group to include guidance and advice to the EM-TC on how profiles of
> all EDXL standards should be handled, standards for profile development,
> whether a SC for profiles or a profile SC for each standard, and
> recommendation on how they should be documented from an adoption
> perspective).  The results would be provided to the EM-TC that would
> consider asking the EMA-TC to consider submitting any writing/drafting
> assignments to the C&D SC.
>
> With the tremendous amount of work the TCs and SCs have on their plate, the
> coordination that must be done to insure work is not duplicated and the
> resulting documentation reflects the intent of the developers of the
> Standard, as well as the fact that we work under the OASIS process to
> accomplish our objectives must all be considered when we choose what time
> requirements we are going to put on our volunteer staff.  I'm hopeful that
> all interested parties will be present at the RIM meeting 12-1ET Thurs June
> 28 for this important discussion.
>
> All the best,
>
> Elysa Jones, Chair
> OASIS EM-TC
>
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> Subject: [emergency] NIEM/EDXL Proposals in Support of DHS Funding
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Please excuse the duplication, but I used the wrong reply address for OASIS
> lists. Otherwise this message is what was delivered to the personal inboxes
> of the addresses I have dropped from this mailing.
>
> Elysa, we discussed the issues around your effort to re-engage DHS S&T and
> we decided it would be a quick, easy WIN if we could show how EDXL and NIEM
> can work together since we are still seeing people assume that these two
> efforts are competitors.Doug Allport noted that he had spoken with Robert
> Griffin(?) under whose direction S&T funding currently falls, and you and
> Doug can fashion an approach that will provide him with the easy WIN he
> needs to get S&T back on track with us.
>
> It turns out, as you might recall, that Lee Tincher wrote a White Paper
> which could be the basis for showing how NIEM and EDXL can work together.
> Gary Ham had several key comments that will almost certainly avoid some
> pitfalls if we are careful in that regard. I suggested that a demonstration
> in addition to a White paper ought to be especially effective. If Tim's
> group could pull that rabbit out their hat, it certainly wouldn't hurt.
>
> Doug Allport had a suggestion involving profiles which might work with the
> upcoming RIM SC work on profiles. I would suggest that Tim Grapes and you,
> Elysa, would probably be the most knowledgeable about how to pull this
> together. I suggested that we take this to the EM Adoption TC and engage the
> Collateral and Documents SC for the White Paper portion of the combined
> effort.
>
> If I have missed anything from today's very active discussion, I encourage
> any of you whom I have copied with this message, to point it out. Clearly,
> we should take advantage of next week's Collateral and Documents meeting at
> noon Eastern on Tuesday the 26th to discuss this.
>
> Cheers,
> Rex
>
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