If
I understand correctly, the first thing needed
is to have the TC vote on moving forward with
publication? An emergency meeting as soon as
possible is then necessary. Is it appropriate
to call a meeting with a 1 day notice?
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I
will send the rest of my response in another
message. I think the meeting issue should not
wait while I craft my comment and questions on
the rest.
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After
talking with Dee on Fri, she gathered the
following details of how we go forward. I
guess we can do the 15-day review without the
Notices section being finalized.Â
Â
Iâm
concerned about HL7 having to update the MOU.Â
I do not understand the âforkingâ concern when
there is no equivalent document in HL7. The
staff has been very reluctant to âendorseâ any
other SDO spec. I just hope they donât back
out.
Â
It
sounds like they are waiting for the TC to act
on a review and vote for CSD and CSPRD-15
day. We donât have a meeting scheduled for
8/14 but could call a special meeting for this
purpose if you guys agree.
Â
Thoughts?
Elysa
Â
Â
Elysa,
Does
this help at all?
Let
me know if you want me to do anything at this
point.
Best,
dee
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On
Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Paul Knight <paul.knight@oasis-open.org>
wrote:
Hi
all,
Â
To
clarify a bit (as I understand it):
ÂÂ PAUL
has been cleared to start the PR (15-day
review), if he hasn't already done so.Â
I
am ready to get the document sent out for PR,
AFTER the TC reviews and votes to submit it
for PR (likely at the TC meeting next Tuesday,
August 14).ÂI'll have things ready to plug
together quickly after the TC acts.
Â
At
this point we don't have an approved document
or an approval date - both are needed to start
the PR.
Â
As
shown in the EMTC minutes for their August 7
meeting:
EDXL Hospital Availability Exchange (HAVE) SC. Awaiting OASIS agreement
on finalizing ``Notices'' section then we can then begin final review
internally before an expected 15-day public review.
I've
also confirmed this with email to Elysa, Rex,
Scott Robertson, and Beth Pumo (on August 8).Â
(cc: Jamie, Scott)
Â
But
not to worry -Â
The
timeline looks good:Â (as long as no Material
changes are needed due to PR comments)
Â
-
start PR - Aug. 15
-
finish PR - Aug. 30
-
wait 7 days if any comments are received -
Sept 6? - (potential non-Material edits can
occur during Aug 31-Sept 10 if needed)
-
start CS ballot - likely after TC meeting Sept
11 - say Sept 12
-
finish CS ballot - Sept 19
-
publish CS - Sept 20 or 21
Â
ÂBest
regards,
Paul
Â
On
Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Jamie Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
wrote:
Hello
Dee and Jane.
(FYI
Chet's out until next week.)
I'm
sure you read the longer answer about
EDXL-HAVE, which I already provided to Elysa,
below.
Here's
a "TL;DR" re-cap, with names in CAPS:
Â
NOW
-
PAUL has been
cleared to start the PR (15-day review),
if he hasn't already done so.
-
As soon as he
does, JAMIE will send a confirming email
to HL7 about all the logo and TM use that
our TC says is OK with HL7.
NEXT ~15 DAYS
-
ELYSA and SCOTT
R and the TC will respond to the RE as
usual.
-
ELYSA and SCOTT
R will ping their HL7 counterparts to make
sure they have a shot at the review, if
they have any more tweaks.
-
JAMIE will send
a proposed MoU edit over to HL7 to address
the forking issue. (And disclose to
LAURENT and the BOARD.)
NEXT ~45 DAYS AFTER
THAT
-
ELYSA and SCOTT
R and the TC will take whatever other
steps after the PR are needed to get to
their final CS by October. (The usual TC
Process requirements.)
-
LAURENT will
sign our proposed non-forking amendment to
the MoU for sharing with HL7 and the
BOARD.
-
JAMIE and CHET
will confirm whether we have HL7's OK and
the non-forking MoU amendment, by that
same October date. (Board's policy on
submissions).ÂÂ
Basically,
by deciding to do a CS shared with HL7, rather
than a CN, EMTC triggered the additional needs
for the MoU amendment and joint publication
permission. As I told Elysa, that's fine; it
just wasn't what Chet and the original MoU
were expecting. Scott R did share a very
brief "it's OK" e-mail from Karen at HL7, but
we need a bit more than than to finalize it
all.Â
Â
EMTC
also always retains the right to publish their
doc separately as OASIS ... but if the TC
wants to take a flyer on the joint permission
stuff being finalized, with a joint document
done by the time of the "cooperation
announcement," that's certainly their right.Â
Another alternative for them would be to run a
ballot approval of both versionsÂ
(OASIS+HL7, and just OASIS) so that they are
guaranteed to have something approved
by October whether or not HL7 comes through.Â
But that's EMTC's decision.ÂÂÂ
.Â
CordiallyÂ
Jamie
James Bryce Clark,
General Counsel
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the
information society
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ICT Standards:
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October 2018:
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On
Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Dee from OASIS
<dee.schur@oasis-open.org>
wrote:
Hi
Jamie, Paul and Chet,
Â
I
just spoke with Elysa and we need your help. I
am not certain what needs to be done at this
point and who needs to do it (TC, HL7, OASIS?)
Âto move forward with the joint press release
which we need to make before the HAVE BoF on 2
October, see link below:
Â
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bridging-the-gap-part-2-hl7oasis-advancements-in-emergency-continuity-of-care-tickets-48747729772.
We are announcing our cooperation at this
event.
Â
If
one of you can clearly outline exactly what
needs to be done and who needs to do it, that
would be really useful.
Â
Thank
you,
dee
Â
Â
Â
Dee
Schur
Senior
Manager, Development & Advocacy
OASIS | Advancing open standards for the
information societyÂ
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