RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Notes on apparent delay

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

True.  I trust you will keep us in line if we stay toward fallacies. 
And provide some exmples so that we can be clear in our explanations 
to the rest of the world. I doubt that they will understand as well 
if we supply only verbal explanations, and that's rimarily what I am 
fishing for at the moment. If we do a good job of making our 
explanations interesting and we actually get some understanding 
started, who knows where it will lead?

I'd like to be pleasantly surprised, but I expect to be surprised in any case.

Ciao,
Rex

At 9:15 AM -0500 10/1/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>Keep in mind that all signs are not artificial.
>Following the Peircean models, and as shown
>in the diagram I provided a few days ago,
>the model is of an environment that emits/receive
>signs and of objects within that environment
>that emit/receive signs.   This is necessary
>to create a dynamic self-modifying system.
>
>Concurrent gusty wind, high humidity, high barometric
>pressure, are a sign.  It isn't necessary that
>a sign have a graphical representation although
>that is a simple form and easily understood. It
>is necessary that a sign be mapped to a physical
>or abstract concept.  In the case above, it maps
>to a potential for tornados.
>
>len
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
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>
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I wanted to let you know that while it appears that I have slowed
>down considerably in the process of pushing Base Schema elements out
>for discussion, I am actually working on some aids for understanding
>the role and function of the Base Schema, our overall plan, and
>semiotics, since we will soon be issuing our first
>submission--hopefully, by the end of this month.
>
>While that is a postponement from our earlier target date, it is
>still an aggressive schedule, and without these explanatory materials
>to help explain our work, I think we would be asked to return to our
>committee and do this so that the larger audience can more readily
>understand what they will be seeing in  the spec itself.
>
>I expect to have the first working drafts of this explanatory work
>ready by the end of day today or tomorrow, and then I will return to
>the Base Schema elements.
>
>One thing that I would not mind seeing (another way of saying, please
>do this) would be a list of various kinds of signs as a set of
>concrete examples, things like roadside directional signs, traffic
>signs, hand/body gesture signs (culturally specific or not--though a
>name and any further classifying information would be helpful),
>spoken words, written languages (with images of the language on paper
>or in some other usage, like building signage) , alert sounds
>(sirens, alarms), etc, etc.
>
>It will be helpful to have examples--and I will be providing a
>separate website section for this assembly of concrete examples. We
>have to remember that even after we finish our first spec, we still
>have to sell it, and to do that, it is better to demonstrate than
>explain endlessly. This material is simply not easy to grasp
>correctly.
>
>Ciao,
>Rex
>--
>Rex Brooks
>Starbourne Communications Design
>1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA 94702 *510-849-2309
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Rex Brooks
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