RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Base Schema - signal

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

While I understand Len's reply, especially since I am about as deeply 
immersed in the semiotic literature and the history of the semiotic 
schools of thought as it is possible to be right now, I also 
understand the points James was making. So what I want to say about 
this is that the rest of the world still is not semiotically 
literate, and the kind of points James brings up are the kinds of 
responses we are likely to receive from the most educated and 
literate of audience.

This is what I meant when I mentioned that we need to be able sell 
HumanMarkup as well as invent it. Now, what I would hope to see is 
for both of you to approach this exchange from the other's viewpoint 
if that is possible and is not too much to ask, which I would 
understand as well.

This would be especially helpful to me, since I am working on 
explaining this entire set of elements (the semiotic ones). I think 
we would be well advised to deal with this aspect of our work now, 
while the trail of possible misunderstandings is fresh.

Ciao,
Rex

At 11:16 AM -0500 10/2/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>The term "signal" in this application is constrained
>quite deliberately to a limited definition.  We got
>it from the literature, not the natural language.
>Delving deeply is not warranted.
>
>len
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Landrum [mailto:James.Landrum@ndsu.nodak.edu]
>
>
>Perhaps a bit long-winded (and perhaps too graphically violent as well)
>bvut the piont of the above points (1 and 2) are that signals are not
>mere actions, they are events of themselves and can be both objectively
>as well as subjectively observed and interpreted, but perhaps just as
>important, a signal is, in the human context at least, more often an
>intentional action to of a transmitter to communicate, to transmit
>information in a salient (meaningful) way, so as to evoke one or more
>anticipated reactions from the receiver.  This, of course, is inclusive
>of that often-observed miscommunitation, the :missed signal.


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