RE: [huml-comment] PC-33 -Section 4.4.6-race

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

We do have gender as an attributeGroup. As a physicalDescriptor it 
might be appropriate to use sex, or else we run into a complication 
of using one attributeGroup within another in the schema itself, 
which I would rather not do. As for race, I am still noodling, and 
gathering research from biometrics and from genetics and coming to 
the conclusion that it should probably be qualified as representing 
specific uses from existing systems, although we could also use other 
standards/namespaces by importing or declaring them. I think that it 
should be further refined in the Physical Characteristics Description 
sub language and as an enumeration of belief in the part of the 
Secondary Base Schema that is not specific to one of our 
subcommittees.

Ciao,
Rex

At 1:00 PM -0600 12/2/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
>
>>That's a big step from a measurable physical characteristic.  Is this going
>>to be added to the specification?
>
>It would depend on the codelist.  And that is application dependent.  It's
>a good point though; race is probably not a physical characteristic until
>it is enumerated further or measurable.  On the other hand, it can be a
>a simple codelist for an observation and all the user does is pick from
>the list.   Here is the standard codelist one finds in many public safety
>applications.  It is itself, specified by a standard as many codelists
>are:
>
>RACE A = Asian B = Black I = Indian W = White U = Unknown
>
>One could probably take an average individual, give them an
>average group, and they would select among these choices
>correctly a reasonable number of times for some values of
>"correct" and "reasonable".  What is done with these values
>once recorded is a separate issue, not of insignificant
>concern but not of concern in the primary.
>
>>PS: How is it that gender is not reflected as a physical characteristic in
>>the Human ML scheme of things?
>
>Oversight.
>
>SEX  M = Male F = Female U = Unknown
>
>Every now and then, there is an argument to change that to "gender"
>but most forms use "sex" and don't quibble.
>
>len
>
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