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Subject: Minutes of TC Meeting on 23 April 2010 [Draft]
Hi all,
this is just the draft of the minutes of the first TC meeting held
today. Please take a look at the summary and chat transcript. I will
gather the final roll and post it soon.
Acknowledgments:
* Thanks to Mary McRae for the administrative support going in to the
1st TC meeting.
* Thanks to Dee Schur for the member support in outreach and successful
participation by new Oasis members.
* Thanks to Abbie Barbir for being the convenor until the chair(s) were
elected and for the patience in taking the roll. :)
* Thanks to Peter Brown for the excellent chat room for TC use.
(http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/OASIS-ID-Cloud)
Summary:
1) Mary McRae made some introductions about Oasis, memberships and who
should be on the TC meeting.
2) Roll Call was taken by Abbie Barbir, verified by Mary McRae. (Roll
will be provided soon)
3) Call for nominations for Chair(s).
- Abbie nominated Anil Saldhana (Red Hat) and Tony Nadalin (Microsoft)
who accepted it personally and seconded by TC members.
4) Anil Saldhana (Red Hat) and Tony Nadalim (Microsoft) elected as
co-chairs by unanimous consent.
5) Mary went through legal stuff associated with Oasis. Described
everything in reasonable detail she sent out as important links by email
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/id-cloud/201004/msg00017.html)
6) The chairs were invited to lead the meeting. Anil stepped forward to
lead the meeting with no objections from Tony (calling in from Malaysia
at 2am).
7) Anil summarized the charter
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/id-cloud/charter.php) as "use
cases", "gaps" and "profiles".
8) Discussion on holding regular TC meetings:
- Biweekly meetings schedule (instead of weekly meetings) was voted with
unanimous consent.
- Next TC meeting is set for May 7th at 1pm EDT.
- The schedule (time and day of week) is going to be decided by a
general poll(s) sent to the TC list.
9) Abbie Barbir gave a brief introduction of the possibility of holding
a face to face meeting at the ITU-T workshop in June.
10) Anil mentioned that we will discuss the possibilities of holding a
face to face meeting as an agenda item for the next meeting.
11) Election of Secretaries for the TC.
- Abbie Barbir, John Bradley and Richard Sand were nominated, seconded
and approved with unanimous consent to be the secretaries of the TC.
12) Specification Editors
- Tom Bishop (Conformity) and Heather Hinton (IBM) nominated themselves
to be the specification editors with no objections from the TC members.
- Other editors will be added in future.
13) Dee Schur, Oasis Staff who also functions as the program manager of
the Oasis IDTrust Member Section gave an introduction to the member
section and steering committee. This TC is part of the Oasis IDTrust
member section.
14) Meeting adjourned with no objections.
Procedures for each TC meeting:
1) Secretary takes the roll call.
2) A volunteer is used to be the minute taker (the minutes do not have
to be very detailed. The key events of the TC meeting have to be noted.
Summaries of discussions sometime suffice).
3) After each meeting, the minute taker posts the minutes to the tc list
for comment and feedback/corrections.
4) At the next meeting, as an agenda item, the previous meeting(s)
minutes are approved via vote.
Chat Room Transcript:-
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Kelvin morphed into Kelvin Lawrence
anonymous1 morphed into Kyle Austin
anonymous morphed into Bob Cope
anonymous2 morphed into David Kern
Mary McRae: Hi Kyle, I don't see you listed on the TC roster ...
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: Hi all, I suggest adding your affiliation at the
end of your name such that people know.
David Kern morphed into David Kern (IBM)
Mary McRae morphed into Mary McRae, OASIS
anonymous morphed into Jeff Broberg (CA)
Kyle Austin morphed into Kyle Austin (TriCipher)
Kyle Austin (TriCipher): sorry, i'm late in that i just got OASIS
paperwork resolved
Mary McRae, OASIS: ok. thanks!
Kelvin Lawrence: Dialing in now
Kelvin Lawrence: Paste it into the info section
anonymous morphed into Stavros Isaiadis (Fujitsu)
Kelvin Lawrence morphed into Kelvin Lawrence (IBM)
anonymous morphed into Matt Rutkowski
Matt Rutkowski morphed into Matt Rutkowski (IBM)
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): On now
Matt Rutkowski (IBM): On call
John Borras morphed into John Borras (Individual)
anonymous morphed into Steve Wierenga (HP) observer
John Borras (Individual) morphed into John Borras (Individual) Observer
anonymous morphed into Tom Bishop (Conformity)
anonymous morphed into Micah Willbrand
anonymous1 morphed into Diego Crupnicoff (Mellanox)
Micah Willbrand morphed into Micah Willbrand (Serasa Experian)
anonymous5 morphed into John Bradley
anonymous morphed into Dale Olds
anonymous3 morphed into Peter Davis
Bob Cope morphed into Bob Cope (Homeland Security Consultants)
anonymous6 morphed into Thomas Hardjono (MIT)
anonymous7 morphed into Richard Sand
Dale Olds morphed into Dale Olds (Novell)
anonymous2 morphed into Darren Platt
anonymous4 morphed into Dan Turissini
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: Hi all, I suggest adding your affiliation at the
end of your name such that people know. (settings)
Peter F Brown morphed into Peter F Brown (Individual)
Richard Sand: Hello chat, I'll type minutes here
anonymous8 morphed into Dee
Peter Davis morphed into [Neustar] Peter Davis
Peter F Brown (Individual): Can everyone not speaking please mute their
mikes
Richard Sand morphed into Richard Sand, Skyworth TTG
anonymous2 morphed into Frank Wray
Frank Wray morphed into Frank Wray (PwC)
Richard Sand, Skyworth TTG morphed into Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG)
anonymous morphed into Mare Lucas (GCE)
Dee: hi Dale
Darren Platt morphed into Darren Platt (Symplified)
anonymous2 morphed into Tim Christin
Dale Olds (Novell): Hi Dee!
[Neustar] Peter Davis: abbie, i am attending, but cannot speak at the moment
anonymous1 morphed into Michael Stiefel
Dan Turissini morphed into Dan Turissini (WidePoint)
Tim Christin morphed into Tim Christin (Acxiom)
anonymous1 morphed into Siddharth Bajaj (VeriSign)
Frank Wray (PwC) morphed into Frank Wray (PwC) observer
anonymous morphed into Bill Becker (SafeNet)
Dee: Dale is here
Peter F Brown (Individual): I don't know whether you could heear me - I
am present
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: peter: think abbie got u
anonymous morphed into jad (John Dilley)
[Neustar] Peter Davis: good thanks
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: peter brown was noted.
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: peter davis, hi, not u I guess.
Peter F Brown (Individual): @Anil: thx
jad (John Dilley) morphed into John Dilley (Akamai)
anonymous morphed into Heather Hinton (IBM)
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: heather hinton: hi.
Micah Willbrand (Serasa Experian): I think you missed me during the roll
call. Micah Willbrand Serasa SA
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG)1 morphed into Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG)
Dee morphed into Real Dale Olds
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): @Abbie could you paste the roll call summary here
please? - hard to follow who is on - thanks
Dale Olds (Novell): Oh that's funny
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary proposed to allow all 26 members on
the call to be considered a voting member
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: @kelvin, the roster is the most challenging phase
of the tc initiation.
Real Dale Olds morphed into Bandit
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Anil - I chair two other TC's - I know!
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Sorry who is speaking now?
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Abbie
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Abbie - proposes we have 2 TC chairs
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): before that was Mary McRae from OASIS
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil accepts nomination
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony accepts nomination
Tom Bishop (Conformity): Richard, can you try to abut Affiliation to
names when they're being entered into "notes?" So, for example, you
would type "Anil/RedHat accepts nomination." Thanks!
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): ok
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Tony Nadalin is from Microsoft , Richard
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): thank you
anonymous morphed into Ricardo Koji Ushizaki
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony Nadalin from Microsoft accepts nomination
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Any objects to Anil and Tony?
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony and Anil are accepted as chairs
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil has taken over leading this meeting
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil Saldhana from Redhat
Bandit: Hi Dale
Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Congrats to the new chairs - as an OASIS Chair
myself I appreciate your time
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary McRae from OASIS: please everyone be
familiar with scope and charter
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary McRae from OASIS: your OASIS
memebership approves the IPR model: RF unlimited terms is used for this
committee
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Section 8 - disclosure obligations
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Section 9 - types of disclosures
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Section 10 - description of RF Unlimited terms
AnilSaldhana_RedHat:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=id-cloud (TC
Home Page)
Ricardo Koji Ushizaki morphed into Ricardo Koji Ushizaki (Serasa Experian)
anonymous morphed into Mark Robinton (HID Global)
Mary McRae, OASIS: Charter - most important section is 'scope' - defines
what the TC can and cannot do.
IPR Policy - by your being on this roster, you and you company have
agreed to the terms of the IPR Policy and the specific mode of this TC
(RF on Limited Terms). Section 8 describes your disclosure obligations.
Section 9 types of obligations (contribution and participation). Section
10.2.3 defines RF on Limited Terms.
TC Process
- successfully completed TC formation
- now it's your job to begin work on your deliverables
- TC process defines the various approval stages and the requirements
for each; save detail as you get closer to each milestone
- in general:
we are a very lightweight organization in terms of both policies and
staff; we do not provide secretariat services. TC members are
responsible for meeting minutes, agendas, specification editing, and the
like. That said, we are here to support you in any way we can - member
outreach, public relations, speaking opportunities, demonstrations and
interops, and certainly to help you navigate our policies and processes.
all work must be done on OASIS servers. your TC group includes the
roster, document repository, email, calendar, action items, and
electronic ballots.
only members can participate (observers are read-only/listen-only)
meetings must be scheduled in advance and must be quorate (greater than
50% of voting members in attendance) in order to conduct business
attend two consecutive meetings: gain voting rights; miss two
consecutive meetings: lose voting rights.
minutes must be posted and include attendee list and all decisions
discussions happen on tc email list: observers are automatically
subscribed as read-only; members can post. all emails are publicly
archived. public comment list to be used by observers, OASIS members who
are not members of the TC, or who are not OASIS members.
If you are on the call but are not listed on the TC roster but your
company is an OASIS member, you must join the TC in order to
participate. Sign in with your OASIS login/password, and click the 'join
group' button. If you have any problems, please send me an email and
I'll be happy to help.
Peter F Brown (Individual): And Tony was also awarded as an "OASIS
Distinguished Contributor" at our AGM earlier this week
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - Charter has 3 areas: 1) use cases,
2) gap, 3)profile
Anthony Nadalin: Anil, I'm in Malaysia and on skype and I cant really
hear very well and you all can't seem to hear me
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - gap analysis - as noted in the
charter, we don't intend to reinvent the wheel
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - 3rd step - generate profiles based
on use cases & gaps
abbie: need to go on a different call
abbie: congratulation to anil and tony
Anthony Nadalin: OK, Hve fun
Mary McRae, OASIS: thanks abbie
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - this is a good opportunity for all
to contribute requirements
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - there are out-of-scope items for
this committee
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - access control, levels of assurance.
we are not going to create any apis or new formats
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (anil please feel free to correct my
paraphrasing if its not accurate)
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): John - proposes mapping between use cases
and profiles
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (John can you type your full name & company
here?)
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - anything outside the charter needs
to be a new TC
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - next item, scheduling TC meeting calls
Anthony Nadalin: Its 2AM
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anthony what company are you with?
Anthony Nadalin: Microsoft
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): ty
anonymous morphed into Zakir Magdum
Zakir Magdum morphed into Zakir Magdum(MIT Lincoln Lab)
Anthony Nadalin: Bi weekly
Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Bi-weekly please.
Darren Platt (Symplified): bi-weekly
Anthony Nadalin: how about a poll on the time and day
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop (Confirmity) seconds the motion
for bi-weekly meetings
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): No objections, TC meetings will be bi-weekly
Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Suggest we put up a ballot with 2 choices of
days/times.
Anthony Nadalin: not friday
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - latter in the week?
Anthony Nadalin: Agree Heather, set up a poll on Kavi
Anthony Nadalin: or dootle pole
Matt Rutkowski (IBM): agree with heather's suggestion
Tom Bishop (Conformity): Yes, Mary, I've done this before as well, and
the two-time model is what has worked best...
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Heather - proposes sending out a
spreadsheet with potential times
Anthony Nadalin: Do a dootle pole Anil
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): I dont see heather on the chat window
members - what is her full name & company?
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - this should be your favorite TC [laughs]
Anthony Nadalin: Heather Hinton (IBM)
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG):
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary - on this call we must come up with a
schedule for at least next meeting
Tom Bishop (Conformity): I move we schedule our next meeting same
day/time (Friday), and then meantime poll for a better alternative...
Tom Bishop (Conformity): Someone just said this...
David Kern (IBM): Seconded
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony proposed the same
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Friday, May 7, 1pm
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): any objections?
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop seconds
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): approved. next meeting will be May 7 at 1pm
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (who is speaking now?)
anonymous morphed into Heather Hinton
Anthony Nadalin: Tony was speaking
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony proposed setting up a poll for times
and days for subsequent meetings
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony proposed using "Dootle"
Mary McRae, OASIS: doodle I think
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): sorry that does make a bit more sense
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): ok so doodle is seconded and approved
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - for next meeting we will discuss a
face-to-face meeting
Anthony Nadalin: Bogota 6 times a year, John Bradley will host
Anthony Nadalin: Last time I checked
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary - recommends members join Identity and
Trusted Infrastructure members section
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (idtrust)
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - next topic - nomination of secretary
and specification editors
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop volunteers for spec editing
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop/Conformity
Anthony Nadalin: Thanks Tom
Anthony Nadalin: Thanks John
Anthony Nadalin: I second John
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): I can also server as secretary
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): John Bradley, Richard Sand, Abbie are
committee secretaries
Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Congrats and thanks to John, Richard & Abbie.
Real Heather Hinton: I submit myself for spec editor
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Heather Hinton/IBM is approved as spec editor
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - proposes we adjourn this meeting
Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Bye all.
Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): thank you all
AnilSaldhana_RedHat: thanks to everyone for the call. Richard, you can
send the minutes to the tc list.
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Regards,
Anil
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