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Subject: RE: [id-cloud] Consolidated Second F2F Meeting Minutes
Thank you Anil for such a great job leading through all of the use cases - and Dominique for the hosting. Roger and others who kept us connected, many thanks to you! Best regards, Michele -----Original Message----- From: Anil Saldhana [mailto:Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:36 PM To: id-cloud Subject: [id-cloud] Consolidated Second F2F Meeting Minutes Thanks to all the members who scribed the minutes. =========== Meeting started after 9:00 with introductions around the table and people on the phone. Recapped the project charter: Stage 1: Drafting of the use cases Stage 2: Mapping use cases back to standards and conduct a gap analysis between the use cases and standards Stage 3: Build profiles Creating standards based upon the use cases is not part of this group's charter Discussion around to what extent and when to build the profiles in addition did the group want to start the standards mapping. Agreed to focus on reviewing and correctly classifying the use cases. ========== OASIS IDCloud TC F2F Meeting 28-29 April 2011, 09:00am PDT, 05:00pm PDT ---------------------------------------- 1. Roll Call and Agenda Review Name Status ---- ------ Anil Saldhana Member Anthony Nadalin Member Brian Marshall Member Colin Wallis Member Dale Moberg Member Darran Rolls Member David Turner Member Doron Cohen Member Dr. David Chadwick Member Dr. Dominique Nguyen Member Gershon Janssen Member Matthew Rutkowski Member Michele Drgon Member Peter Brown Member Siddharth Bajaj Member Thomas Hardjono Member Roger Bass Member Joanne Furtsch Member Mark Schertler Member Observers: Jim Adler 19 people joined the meeting, 10 of 18 voting members present (55%). This meeting quorates. Status changes: Lost voting rights: Abbie Barbir, Andy Kindred, Dale Olds, Daniel Turissini, Jeffrey Broberg Gained voting rights: Brian Marshall, David Turner, Dr. David Chadwick 2. Approval of 4 April 2011 Minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/id-cloud/201104/msg00012.html Motion to approve on April 4 meeting minutes, proposed by Matt, seconded Roger, approved by unanimous consent. 3. Use Case Discussion and Normalization - Discussed classification of use cases by category, deployment model, and service model. For both category and service level, we should identify 'primary' and 'secondary'. Deployment categories: most scenarios apply to all, so we will not spend much time on this. - Normalizing 'Actors' was agreed to be valuable - and indeed 'Services' and 'Systems' as well. We want the output of this meeting to be published in some form for "public review". Per OASIS rules, the document would need to have 'Committee Specification' status. It was generally agreed that it makes sense to create a "Naming" subgroup to consider normalization of these different terms. It was agreed initially to keep that informal rather than create a formal SC. Peter, Gershon, Matt, Doron, Roger volunteered to do that. Gershon and others will email the full TC list with any details for the Naming Subgroup. - Regarding 'Actors' - Peter noted that 'Actors' are different from 'Roles'. SOA reference architecture groups discussed this extensively (see Peter's email re SOA-RA output). The subgroup should probably consider those as separate concepts, leveraging the SOA-RA work as appropriate. - Initial deliverable of the Naming group is due on May 16th. - Use cases are clearly at different levels of granularity. It was agreed that to properly compare use cases, they need to be decomposed to be at the same level of granularity. It was not decided when that should happen. - Use cases to be combined: - 11 with 31 - 6=12+13 - We need to put forward terms and definitions. Many definitions exist: we need to agree which ones we will use and reference within this TC. Tony volunteered to provide this by May 31st. Excluded: conforming use cases to these terms and definitions. - 17: request author to rewrite with reference to Attribute Management and Audit & Compliance aspects. - 19: request author to shift to Attribute Management model - 10/14: subgroup (Matt, Doron, Dale, Roger. + author, Prime Key?) rewrite to focus as follows: - 10: signing in the cloud - 14: delegation/chaining of signing authority - 12 is a scenario of 20 - Need a use case for token transformation (in 6?). no volunteer yet - 20,21,22: combine into one use case with separate scenarios - 23: need to remove step 4 (or separate into a separate scenario/use case) 4. Other Business * Draft Timeline for ID-Cloud TC work: * Before May 16: - Receive more detailed and elaborated use cases as agreed during face-2-face meeting (action items) * May 16: - vote on establishing a Committee Draft version 1 + use case document as-is at that point in time, including deletions, modifications, etc. - normalized names review from sub-group * May 31: - Definitions * July 15: - Vote on establishing a Committee Draft version 2, including: + normalized names + definitions + decomposition of use cases * September 1: - Vote on establishing a Committee Specification version 1 - Vote on putting the Committee Specification version 1 to a 60-day Public Review 5. Adjourn - Next meeting: 16 May 2011. - Use case document with modifications from F2F has been posted to SVN: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/id-cloud/?rev=13&sc= 1 - Meeting adjourned. Discussed classification of use cases by category, deployment model, and service model. For both category and service level, we should identify 'primary' and 'secondary'. Deployment categories: most scenarios apply to all, so we will not spend much time on this. Normalizing 'Actors' was agreed to be valuable - and indeed 'Services' and 'Systems' as well. We want the output of this meeting to be published in some form for "public review". Per OASIS rules, the document would need to have 'Committee Specification' status. It was generally agreed that it makes sense to create a "Naming" subgroup to consider normalization of these different terms. It was agreed initially to keep that informal rather than create a formal SC. Peter, Gersshon, Matt, Doron, Roger volunteered to do that. Gersshon and others will email the full TC list with any details for the Naming Subgroup. Regarding 'Actors' - Peter noted that 'Actors' are different from 'Roles'. SOA reference architecture groups discussed this extensively (see Peter's email re SOA-RA output). The subgroup should probably consider those as separate concepts, leveraging the SOA-RA work as appropriate. Initial deliverable of the Naming group is due on May 16th. Use cases are clearly at different levels of granularity. It was agreed that to properly compare use cases, they need to be decomposed to be at the same level of granularity. It was not decided when that should happen. Use cases to be combined: 11 with 31 6=12+13 We need to put forward terms and definitions. Many definitions exist: we need to agree which ones we will use and reference within this TC. Tony volunteered to provide this by May 31st. Excluded: conforming use cases to these terms and definitions. 17: request author to rewrite with reference to Attribute Management and Audit & Compliance aspects. 19: request author to shift to Attribute Management model Motion to approve on April 4 meeting minutes, proposed by Matt, seconded Roger, approved by unanimous consent. 10/14: subgroup (Matt, Doron, Dale, Roger. + author, Prime Key?) rewrite to focus as follows: - 10: signing in the cloud - 14: delegation/chaining of signing authority 12 is a scenario of 20 Need a use case for token transformation (in 6?). no volunteer yet 20,21,22: combine into one use case with separate scenarios 23: need to remove step 4 (or separate into a separate scenario/use case) =============================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. 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