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Subject: RE: [id-cloud] Possible profile/gap analysis approach - and NIST opportunity
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Roger: Hey, when you volunteer other people, at least copy them! ;) Michele “As regards leading the white
paper effort, could you forward to me some email (perhaps a previous thread?)
outlining the goals and scope for the white paper? I doubt that I am the
right person to lead that effort, but would be happy to sound out others on the
OASIS Identity Management TC. Several members there have already been
involved with NIST as well, and might be a better fit than I (e.g. Michelle
Drgon).” From: Anthony Nadalin
[mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com] Need to preserve the OASIS IPR and thus
any documents must be collaborated upon in OASIS From: Roger Bass
[mailto:roger@traxian.com] Anil, Matt and everyone, I’d like to propose a new working
document. For now, this would be just a working document, though it might
eventually become a TC work product. The document would be: a spreadsheet
of the various use cases, with initial thoughts (from use case owners and
others interested), as to: a) Existing standards that may apply
(initial thoughts) b) Possible gaps or new requirements c) Other initiatives or
implementations that may be related, either a. SDOs or specific standards
initiatives b. Working proprietary implementations
whose owners might consider participating or contributing I’m thinking of this as perhaps a
precursor to the profile efforts we’ve discussed – but also perhaps
something that could help move that process along, and organize the output of
profiles as we go. I’m unclear on the plans/process/timing you
envisioned on gap analysis etc, so if there’s a better way to align with
those plans, please let me know. The trigger for this proposal was my
being approached by some NIST folks, specifically the SAJACC group, about
leading a white paper effort for them on Identity Management. (SAJACC is
the more technical aspect of the NIST effort, short for Standards Acceleration
to Jumpstart Adoption of Cloud Computing). I’m reluctant to
undertake any significant new effort, but it seems their goals here align
fairly closely with what we’re doing in Id-Cloud (see below). So,
this may be an opportunity to publicize and get greater leverage from what
we’re doing – and create an additional impetus for our own
efforts. The proposed document above seems like a potentially useful
piece in doing that. Unless anyone has a better tool to propose,
and to minimize editing burdens, I’d suggest perhaps using a shared
spreadsheet in Google Docs, so that TC members (and indeed perhaps NIST folks
too) can make edits directly to the original document. Thoughts? Best, Roger From: Tong, Jin [mailto:jin.tong@nist.gov] Roger, Yes, the SAJACC meeting yesterday was
pretty short. As to the white paper effort for IdM, my
take is to describe and catalog (1) use cases/use case categories on how IdM is
involved in cloud operations, (2) what standards, APIs are out there to address
these technical requirements, and (3) document various on-going efforts in this
area out there. The goal is to use it to (a) review our SAJACC use cases and
(b) proceed to do some feasibility testing if possible to demonstrate these
interfaces/standards do implement the requirements. Lee, please chime in if I missed
anything. Thanks, --Jin From: Roger Bass [mailto:roger@traxian.com] Jin, I gather today’s meeting happened
and finished earlier than the agenda indicated. As regards leading the white paper
effort, could you forward to me some email (perhaps a previous thread?) outlining
the goals and scope for the white paper? I doubt that I am the right
person to lead that effort, but would be happy to sound out others on the OASIS
Identity Management TC. Several members there have already been involved
with NIST as well, and might be a better fit than I (e.g. Michelle Drgon). My own personal interest and expertise
is more around the large-scale “Intercloud” identity issues, and
not so much on the ‘cloud app’ use cases you described, critical as
they are. As regards the white paper, I’m
wondering in particular how that might relate to the OASIS Id Could efforts,
namely: a) documentation of use cases (already
well advanced) b) profiling of existing standards,
(planned over next few months in some cases, where interest exists) c) gap analysis Best regards, Roger From: Tong, Jin [mailto:jin.tong@nist.gov] Roger, Thanks
for your interest in participating in the ID Management white paper effort for
SAJACC. We are still looking for a lead for this effort and I wonder if you are
interested in taking the lead. You expressed that perhaps you can engage only
in a limited way, but I think we could greatly benefit from your experience and
expertise in these topics. Thanks
for considering and we look forward to hearing from you. --Jin |
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