Re: [legalcitem-technical] 14 hours to deadline for submitting request changes and proposals to first delivery

[monica.palmirani <monica.palmirani@unibo.it>]

Hi,

some comments:

1. we need probably to add some paragraphs in the first deliverable 
concerning the resolver definition.
I suppose we are thinking a LegalciteM IRI syntax able to foster a 
resolver, at least, for converting the "logic uri reference" into the 
"physical url(s)";

2. the resolver should also to manage the relationship between work, 
expression, manifestation levels in the different versions and languages;

3. It is interesting to introduce also the case to have multiple "logic 
uri(s)" for the same legal source.
The name of the "logic uri" should be univocal, not unique.
Inside of the Legislative subcommittee we have discussed the possibility 
to have "alias" for the same legal source.
Example:
"Public Law 112-29, Sept 16,2011" is also cited in the text as 
"Leahy-Smith America Invents Act" or "125 STAT 284" depending to the 
type of document, so it is interesting to have alias for managing 
different cases.

4. about URN:LEX, Fabio and I participated to the creation of it inside 
of NormeInRete project (Italy), so we could present it in case no one is 
offering

5. we would like also to present the naming convention used by Akoma 
Ntoso that is really similar to ELI, but it was created in 2006.

Yours,
Monica


Il 25/04/2014 20:27, Tabone, Catherine ha scritto:
> Hi Fabio,
>
> I've had a look at the Fundamental Requirements document, apologies that I didn't manage to respond before the previous committee meeting. It all looks good to me, I don't have any changes to propose (and I didn't spot any sexual slurs!).
>
> However I do have one concern about the subcommittees  providing lists of features that characterize the relevant documents . When processing UK legislation we've repeatedly found that however hard you try to list identifying features for documents at a later date we would always end-up unearthing some legacy document that for some obscure historical reason followed a different rule or a new class of document would be created (e.g. the Welsh Assembly did not have the power to make Acts until 2011) and those values thought to be unique and/or conforming to a particular format would not apply. In order to deal with the inevitability of these types of issues I suspect we will need some mechanism to update the standard as necessary or to build in some flexibility for unexpected requirements. I don't know if this is worth considering at this early stage or if it's something for discussion at a later date when getting properly enmeshed in the technical requirements?
>
> Regarding the overview of existing technical approaches, I'm happy to provide a brief whistle-stop introduction to the key features of the European Legislation Identifier if that would be helpful. I think I already have some presentation material which covers very similar ground. If it would be useful for me to give an introduction to the legislation.gov.uk URI scheme (a live implementation of  a systematic, FRBR based, identifier scheme) and/or Crown Legislation Mark-up Language citations (mark-up for XML legislation citations) let me know as this can be arranged fairly easily too. Do we have someone who can talk about URN:LEX and the European Case Law Identifier (ECLI) which would probably also be worth reviewing? I have a little knowledge of these but not extensive.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Catherine
>
> Catherine Tabone
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Vitali
> Sent: 15 April 2014 20:51
> To: legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [legalcitem-technical] 14 hours to deadline for submitting request changes and proposals to first delivery
>
> Dear legalcite technicians,
>
> at https://wiki.oasis-open.org/legalcitem/FundamentalRequirements you can find the first draft of our first deliverable, "a list of requirements in terms of data formats, syntax and basic conceptual model of the Citations, for the other SCs to consider in their own activities." as specified in our charter.
>
> I proposed that all issues arisen before April 15th, 23:59 Hawaii time are sent to the list so that by tomorrow we can have them read and (partly) discussed. There are now only 14 hours left to the deadline. Please provide suggestions and issues.
>
> Also you may have noticed that selecting the first letters of the words of a specific sentence in the text a well-known sexual slur might form. The first one to provide such sentence by the deadline will receive a special prize.
>
> Best regards
>
> Fabio
>
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