Re: [legalcitem] Global distribution of TC members for maximizing involvement

[Fabio Vitali <fabio@cs.unibo.it>]

Dear Roberta, 

> I am in Hawaii and meetings that occur at 4 am, 5 am, etc. are not sustainable for me.  Although I had hoped to participate in this endeavor, I did not know that all of the meetings would be held in the wee hours of the morning.  As I said, it is not a sustainable model for me to be able to participate.  Had I known this would be the situation, I would not have joined this group.  As a result, I have asked OASIS to refund my membership money on a prorated basis.

I see. It was not clear from Chet's list that there were people from Hawaii. Sorry for that. If you stay in the group, then this is reason enough to go on with the split, I deduce. If you still intend to go, let us know. 

> I've done some calculations, and I may be off an hour somewhere, but I'll offer this as a suggestion:
> 
> 1. A meeting for Europe/Asia
> 9 AM in London, 10 AM in Paris, 5 PM in Tokyo (I believe with London on DST that this is 8 AM UCT)
> 
> 2. A meeting for Americas/Hawaii
> 3 PM in New York, noon in L.A., 9 AM in Honolulu (I believe that this is 7 PM UCT)
> 
> Ken
> 


But if we have to split the tele-conferences, though, I ask that the division is not made on the Atlantic Ocean. It should be possible for people in US East Coast to attend both, and (with some effort) for people from Europe and West Coast to attend the other. 

Maintaining the current time for the first, at 16:00 (Europe), 10:00 (NA East), 7:00 (NA West), 23:00 (Japan), and putting the second one four/five hours later, at 20:00/21:00 (Europe), 14:00/15:00 (NA East), 11:00/12:00 (NA West), 8:00/9:00 (Hawaii), would allow most people to take part to both, or either one, if they so choose. 

Ciao

Fabio

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Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 20:32, Roberta Woods <rfwoods@hawaii.edu> ha scritto:

> Dear Fabio,
> 
> I am in Hawaii and meetings that occur at 4 am, 5 am, etc. are not sustainable for me.  Although I had hoped to participate in this endeavor, I did not know that all of the meetings would be held in the wee hours of the morning.  As I said, it is not a sustainable model for me to be able to participate.  Had I known this would be the situation, I would not have joined this group.  As a result, I have asked OASIS to refund my membership money on a prorated basis.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roberta Woods
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Fabio Vitali <fabio@cs.unibo.it> wrote:
> Dear Chet,
> 
> > - Europe (UTC, +1) = 8
> > - North America east coast (UTC - 5) = 10
> > - North America  west coast (UTC -7, -10) = 7
> > - Asia (UTC +9) = 1
> 
> Our current meeting time, at 16:00 (Europe), 10:00 (NA East), 7:00 (NA West), 23:00 (Japan) seems working for all of us. Of course this assumes that Frank Bennett in Japan is fine meeting at 11PM...
> 
> I understood there were some people in Hawaii, who would have to join us at 4:00 AM, which would be hardly practical, but you don't seem to have listed anyone from there.
> 
> Therefore, assuming that Frank still agrees to meet at 11PM, I don't believe there is a reason sufficient to split teleconferences in two groups.
> 
> Just my personal opinion, though.
> 
> Ciao
> 
> Fabio
> 
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> Il giorno 22/apr/2014, alle ore 21:55, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> ha scritto:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have an action item from the last meeting to review the geographical / timezone distribution of TC members (I did not include observers) as input to a discussion on how we can manage the meeting times to enable maximum participation.
> >
> > Rather than list individuals or break out individual time zones, I counted members in the closely related ones together. Here is what I found.
> >
> > - Europe (UTC, +1) = 8
> >
> > - North America east coast (UTC - 5) = 10
> >
> > - North America  west coast (UTC -7, -10) = 7
> >
> > - Asia (UTC +9) = 1
> >
> > So we do indeed have a fair number of members on the Pacific coasts involved. Making a convenient meeting time for those members might help them to participate more easily and fully.
> >
> > /chet
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Fabio Vitali                            Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly,
Dept. of Computer Science        Man got to sit and wonder "Why, why, why?'
Univ. of Bologna  ITALY               Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land,
phone:  +39 051 2094872              Man got to tell himself he understand.
e-mail: fabio@cs.unibo.it         Kurt Vonnegut (1922-2007), "Cat's cradle"
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