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Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Record Docketing and Callbacks
I agree with Shane that the court assigned
case number is not appropriate for the synchronous callback. I also agree that it may be useful for the
court record data to be returned to the Filing Assembly MDE in the asynchronous
callback. This does not change my view
that no such information need be transmitted to the service recipients. From: Shane.Durham@lexisnexis.com
[mailto:Shane.Durham@lexisnexis.com] >> 1. The
ReviewFiling synchronous callback includes FYI: I'm going to call this thing 'MessageReceipt'. >> - the court-assigned case number
On the subject
of returning docketing data to the 'Docketing' caller: Placing my "API-designer
cap" on:
However, switching
to my "functional cap":
Finally, with
my "practical cap" on:
So, (after
cycling through my decision caps) I think we DO need the ability to
express court-record data in our "Docketing Receipt" and "Filing
Receipt". My want of
a well-formed API call, and my practical experience of NEEDING that
data, makes me think we should have it. Perhaps, the
court-record data could be an *optional* part of the Callback? (I
could live with that approach... which is consistent with what I deal with
today). - Shane Durham LexisNexis From: Cabral,
James E. [mailto:JCabral@mtgmc.com] Everyone, Again, please direct your comments to the
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James E. Scott, Here's what I recall, in sequential order: 1. The ReviewFiling synchronous callback
includes - the time the
filing was received by the Filing Review MDE - the court-assigned
case number - any error messages 2. The RecordDocketing includes - all the metadata
and attached documents in the ReviewFiling message that is accepted
by the clerk, as edited by the clerk - the court-assigned case
number - the payment receipt 3. The RecordDocketing synchronous
callback includes - the time it was
received by the Court Record System - any error messages 4. The RecordDocketing asynchronous
callback includes - all the
metadata and attached documents in the RecordDocketing message, as modified by
the Court Record System - the document
identifiers for each document filed into the Court Record System - any error messages 5. The ReviewFiling asynchronous callback
includes - all the
metadata and attached documents in the RecordDocketing message, as edited by
the Court Record System - the court-assigned
case number - the disposition
(accepted/rejected) of each document in the original ReviewFiling message - the document
identifiers for each document filed into the Court Record System - the payment receipt
(if the court processes payments) - a place for error
codes I am unclear on a couple things: 1. One simplification would be to remove
the metadata and documents from the callbacks. In that case, it seems to
me that we would still need to include a way to indicate to the filer what
information the clerk or Court Record System changed. Or should
we just say that it their responsibility to download the documents and check
them for changes? 2. Another question I have is how this all
relates to service. Since the service recipients receive the filing
concurrently with the court, do they need to also receive notification of the
changes the clerk or Court Record System make? And should the
service recipients receive the document identifiers for each
document? Currently, we do not have a mechanism designed to support
that. That's all I can remember. I
probably missed some but it should be a good start for your strawman. jim From: Jim, do you have an
understanding of existing consensus regarding what should go into the callbacks
and Record Docketing message structure? |
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