RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter: Mention Marked-Up Documents

["Bergeron, Donald L. (LNG-DAY)" <Donald.Bergeron@lexisnexis.com>]

This is the reason that in many early or documents we referred to this as
the legal community.  I think you all have good points that it would be
helpful to define and the legal community and to support the different
constituencies within the community.  We must however that we cannot locally
optimize everyone!  There will always be trade-offs that the TC will need to
be aware of that work for and that balancing is part of the mission.
 
Regards, 
Don 
Donald L. Bergeron 
Systems Designer 
LexisNexis 
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Messing [mailto:jmessing@law-on-line.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:25 PM
To: O'Brien,Robert
Cc: john@greacen.net; Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV;
legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter: Mention Marked-Up Documents

I think the needs of lawyers need to acknowledged. The filings for them
are ways to influence a judge's or jury's decision. If they feel put
into a strait-jacket for extraneous reasons, they may feel that
electronic filing is an obstacle, rebel and complain to the judges. A
way to prevent such an outcome, which I think would be disasterous for
electronic court filing, is to assure that free-form of argument is
available somewhere within a document. It may not even be persistent
data from the perspective of the court administration, but it is a
matter of record and will require preservation nontheless. It could be
stored as a single blob or as some kind of character data. But it will
need to be included, to avoid real trouble, IMHO.


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter: Mention Marked-Up
> Documents
> From: "O'Brien, Robert" <Robert.OBrien@cas-satj.gc.ca>
> Date: Mon, January 08, 2007 7:09 pm
> To: <Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV>,
> <legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Cc: <john@greacen.net>
> 
> As a fellow representative of the Court User domain, I wholeheartedly
> endorse Roger's sentiments. Many Court staff and managers don't even
> want to hear about e-filing unless it will save them work (e.g. the area
> of case management system data entry). 
> 
> We must try to leverage more from e-filing in this regard.
> 
> Robert O'B
> Courts Administration Service 
> Ottawa Canada
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV [mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV] 
> Sent: December 24, 2006 8:34 PM
> To: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: john@greacen.net
> Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter: Mention Marked-Up Documents
> 
> Hello, John, and members of the List,
> 
> In perusing the draft revised Charter, I have realized we haven't
> stressed that it is a goal of the TC to develop XML documents that would
> be marked up in such a way as to automate data extraction and eliminate
> duplicative data entry for court filings. Accordingly, I propose that
> the draft Charter revision be amended to include language such as:
> 
> "the TC intends to develop techniques and principles for creating XML
> legal documents for the purpose of data capture and re-use without
> manual re-entry, across a broad spectrum of uses, including court
> filings."
> 
> I hope others will endorse this added purpose and, if anyone has better
> language, please offer it. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Roger
> 
> Roger Winters
> King County