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Subject: Call in # and Scenario Issue
Jim and everyone:
It is the same call in number and code as last meeting. Dial 512
225 3050 - Use 84759# for Pin Code
One issue came up that I'd like to mention before the call: Rolly
won't be able to join us today, so the construction contract scenario
is postponed. I think we might want to ask Dr. Leff to address his
software license and web terms scenario today rather than his
electronic contract to electronic litigation scenario because the
former is already widely based in commerce and general practice and so
it would make a more concrete issue set for our first formal run at a
scenario.
Thanks,
Dan
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-----Original Message-----
From: jkeane [mailto:jik@jkeane.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:55 PM
To: legalxml-econtracts@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [legalxml-econtracts] Minutes Draft from the OASIS Legal
XMLMember Section Electronic Contracts Technical Committee Secretary
(File id:@@2210)
The minutes mention a planned discussion today. If so, does any one
have the
dial-in information?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Laurence Leff [mailto:D-Leff@wiu.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 10:46 PM
To: legalxml-econtracts@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [legalxml-econtracts] Minutes Draft from the OASIS Legal XML
Member Section Electronic Contracts Technical Committee Secretary
(File
id: @@2210)
Minutes Teleconference of May Seventh
Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information
Standards
(OASIS)
Legal XML Member Section
E-Contracts Technical Committee (TC)
Present
Rolly Chambers
Charles Gilliam
Dan Greenwood
Jason Harrop
Laurence L. Leff, Ph.D.
Dave Marvits
John McClure
John Messing
Peter Meyer
Zorran Milosovic
The minutes for April 23rd were approved. Note they were a
combination of
notes taken by Dr. Leff and Mr. Marvits.
Mr. Chambers updated the group on work going in the area of online
dispute
resolution. There is other work but "we seem to be ahead." The ODR
group
is geared towards mediation, negotiation, and arbitration of
settlements.
They are not yet talking about reputation systems.
Mr. Greenwood proposed - that all TC members make a best effort to
submit
one
or more benchmark contracts for use by the TC in applying our emerging
draft specification. (Mr. Greenwood's electronic mail of April 16th on
Benchmark Contracts,
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200304/msg000
34.htm
l
is incorporated by reference.)
This was approved by acclamation.
The discussion about sample contracts included whether they might be
copyrighted, or material posted to the web, would be subject to
Intellectual
Property claims. The Technical Committee also discussed how such
intellectual
property claims might impact the ongoing work of this Technical
Committee
including markup. Also, the technical committee discussed how marking
up
"real life" contracts would advance its agenda as well as the impact
of
working with both simple contracts and complex contracts.
Mr. Greenwood proposed that we have a vote on approval of the process
document.
(This was in Mr. Greenwood's electronic mail of May 1st
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200305/msg000
01.htm
l)
This was approved. However, there was considerable discussion about
the
vagueness of Step Two on establishing a "data model."
It was thus noted that although this step is not precise now, the
Technical
Committee anticipates that the model will include
1) What schemas will be produced and the subject matter
2) Some description of an architecture.
This was passed unanimously.
The following dates and agenda were set for teleconferences. All of
these
were for 18:00 Eastern Time.
May 21st: Discuss the following two scenarios:
Dispute Resolution Contract
Work on Construction Contract
June 4th: Discuss the Clause Model
Discuss the Requirements Document
Discuss the following two scenarios:
1) - Automated Negotiation System (Mr. Marvits)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000
16.htm
l
2) - Discuss Electronic Contracts in Litigation
June 18th: Discuss the following two scenarios:
1 Click-Through Contracts for Software Downloads
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000
12.htm
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2 - Data Consortium Contract Schema Requirements
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000
06.htm
l
July 2nd: Discussion the Enterprise Contract Management Scenario
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg000
07.htm
l
July 16th: Discuss the XML in enterprise documentation systems (Mr.
Peter
Mayer)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200305/msg000
06.htm
l
The Technical Committee addressed the issue of scenarios that might
come in
later than the original deadline. It decided to be open to "late"
scenarios
as it recognized that it might learn what scenarios are appropriate in
the
process of reviewing scenarios now submitted.
Mr. Greenwood closed the meeting, thanking the participants for their
patience
during the extensive "administrative items" in this teleconference and
pointing out that the group is well posed to proceed at a rapid pace
through
the more substantive issues.
New Action Items:
Dr. Laurence Leff will send mail to Mr. Jamie Clark of OASIS
requesting
sample "paper agreements" that were associated with electronic
commerce,
e. g., under ebXML.
Dr. Laurence Leff will send mail to Mr. Karl Best of OASIS to inform
him of
the Technical Committee's interest in holding a face-to-face in
conjunction
with the Australia conference. Dr. Leff will also inquire as to the
availability of teleconferencing or web conferencing facilities for
those
who might not be able to travel to Australia.
Dr. Laurence Leff will follow up with Ms. Pina regarding having
teleconferences
starting at 18:00PM Eastern Daylight Time and continuing past 19:00.
Dr. Laurence Leff will post to the list, the material he prepared
on click-through contracts coordinating it with the information item
format
prepared by Mr. Harrop.
Mr. John Messing will follow up on the possiblity of having a
face-to-face
in conjunction with the American Bar Association meeting August 7th
and
August 8th in San Francisco
Mr. Rolly Chambers will post benchmark contracts from the
construction field.
You may leave a Technical Committee at any time by visiting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legalxml-econtracts/membe
rs/leave_workgroup.php
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