Final Minutes -- May 7, 2003

["Dave Marvit" <dave@marvit.org>]

Note:

These minutes reflect changes discussed at the May 21 conference call.

-Dave Marvit

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                     Minutes Teleconference of May Seventh

     Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards

                                    (OASIS)

                           Legal XML Member Section

                       E-Contracts Technical Committee (TC)

 

Present

 

Rolly Chambers

Charles Gilliam

Dan Greenwood

Jason Harrop

Laurence L. Leff, Ph.D.

Dave Marvit

John McClure

John Messing

Peter Meyer

Zorran Milosovic

 

 

The minutes for April 23rd were approved.  Note they were a combination of

notes taken by Dr. Leff and Mr. Marvit.

 

 

Mr. Chambers updated the group on work going in the area of online dispute

resolution.  There is other work but "we seem to be ahead."  The ODR group is geared towards mediation, negotiation, and arbitration of settlements. They are not yet talking about reputation systems.

 

Mr. Greenwood proposed - that all TC members make a best effort to submit one

or more benchmark contracts for use by the TC in applying our emerging

draft specification. (Mr. Greenwood's electronic mail of April 16th on

Benchmark Contracts, http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200304/msg00034.html

is incorporated by reference.)

 

This was approved by acclamation.

 

The discussion about sample contracts included whether they might be

copyrighted, or material posted to the web, would be subject to Intellectual

Property claims.   The Technical Committee also discussed how such intellectual

property claims might impact the ongoing work of this Technical Committee including markup.  Also, the technical committee discussed how marking up "real life" contracts would advance its agenda as well as the impact of working with both simple contracts and complex contracts.

 

Mr. Greenwood proposed that we have a vote on approval of the process document. (This was in Mr. Greenwood's electronic mail of May 1st

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200305/msg00001.html)

This was approved.  However, there was considerable discussion about the

vagueness of Step Two on establishing a "data model."

 

It was thus noted that although this step is not precise now, the Technical Committee anticipates that the model will include

1) What schemas will be produced and the subject matter

2) Some description of an architecture.

 

This was passed unanimously.

 

The following dates and agenda were set for teleconferences.  All of these

were for 18:00 Eastern Time.

 

May 21st:  Discuss the following two scenarios:

 

           Dispute Resolution Contract

           Work on Construction Contract

 

June 4th:  Discuss the Clause Model

           Discuss the Requirements Document

           Discuss the following two scenarios:

 

1) - Automated Negotiation System (Mr. Marvit)

 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg00016.html

 

2) - Discuss Electronic Contracts in Litigation

        

June 18th: Discuss the following two scenarios:

1  Click-Through Contracts for Software Downloads

 

   http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg00012.html

 

 

 

2  - Data Consortium Contract Schema Requirements

 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg00006.html

 

 

July 2nd:  Discussion the Enterprise Contract Management Scenario

 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200302/msg00007.html

 

 

July 16th: Discuss the XML in enterprise documentation systems (Mr. Peter Mayer)

 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200305/msg00006.html

 

also,

 

July 16 the law firm contract creation and negotiation scenario will be discussed (by Jason Harrop).

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalxml-econtracts/200304/msg00038.html

 

The Technical Committee addressed the issue of scenarios that might come in later than the original deadline.  It decided to be open to "late" scenarios as it recognized that it might learn what scenarios are appropriate in the process of reviewing scenarios now submitted.

 

Mr. Greenwood closed the meeting, thanking the participants for their patience during the extensive "administrative items" in this teleconference and

pointing out that the group is well posed to proceed at a rapid pace through the more substantive issues.

 

New Action Items:

 

Dr. Laurence Leff will send mail to Mr. Jamie Clark of OASIS requesting sample "paper agreements" that were associated with electronic commerce, e. g., under ebXML.

 

Dr. Laurence Leff will send mail to Mr. Karl Best of OASIS to inform him of

the Technical Committee's interest in holding a face-to-face in conjunction with the Australia conference.  Dr. Leff will also inquire as to the

availability of teleconferencing or web conferencing facilities for those who might not be able to travel to Australia.

 

Dr. Laurence Leff will follow up with Ms. Pina regarding having teleconferences starting at 18:00PM Eastern Daylight Time and continuing past 19:00.

 

Dr. Laurence Leff will post to the list, the material he prepared

on click-through contracts coordinating it with the information item format prepared by Mr. Harrop.

 

 

Mr. John Messing will follow up on the possiblity of having a face-to-face in conjunction with the American Bar Association meeting August 7th and August 8th in San Francisco 

 

Mr. Rolly Chambers will post benchmark contracts from the construction field.