OASIS Management Protocol Technical Committee (MPTC)
Meeting Minutes

Logistics
Roll-call
Other Business
Business In Order
Action Items & Motions
References


Logistics

Meeting Date

09/18/2002

Meeting Time

9:00 pm PDT

Location

Face-to-Face: Cisco Building 21, San Jose

Dial-in Number: To be added

International: To be added
Conference ID:  To be added

Duration

9:00 AM to 5:00 PM

Chair

Winston Bumpus

Recording Secretary

Hedy Alban

Agenda

As published [1]

Roll-call

 

 

 

Member (before Sept 4)

4-Sep

9/18/2002 (F2F)

Alan Davies

AD

SeeBeyond

Y

N

Regrets

Anand Akela

AA

HP

Y

N

N

Andrea Westerinen

AW

Cisco

Y

Y

Y

Andreas Maier

AM

IBM

Y

Y

Y

Aravinda Gollapudi

AG

Verisign

Y

N

N

Darran Rolls 

DR

Waveset

Y

N

N

Dennis Ho

DH

Iona

Y

N

N

Dick Spellman

DS

Sun Microsystems Inc.

Y

N

Y

Ellen Stokes

ES

IBM

Y

N

N

Fred Carter

FC

 

Y

Y

Y

Gil Kirkpatrick

GK

NetPro

Y

Y

N

Guru Bhat

GB

Sun Microsystems Inc.

Y

N

N

Heather Kreger

HK

IBM

Y

Y

Y

Hedy Alban

HED

Max Shevet Consulting

Y

Y

Y

Homayoun Pourheidari

HP

HP

Y

Y

Y

Jim Willits

JW

HP

Y

Y

Y

Julie Schott

JS

Cisco

Y

Y

Y

Ken Crozier

KC

Cisco

Y

Y

Y

Karl Schopmeyer

KS2

Independent

Y

Y

Y

Krishna Sankar

KS1

Cisco

Y

Y

N

Michael Thatcher

MT

Microsoft

Y

Y

Y

Robert Baafi

RB

Iona

Y

N

N

Sekhar Saukkai

SS

Corporate Oxygen Inc.

Y

N

N

Srinivas Vadhri

SV

CommerceOne

Y

N

N

Veena Subrahmanyam

VS

HP

Y

Y

Y

Winston Bumpus

WB

Novell

Y

Y

Y

 

 

 

 

 

 

New Members

 

 

 

 

 

Kevin Brinkley

KB

Intel

1/3

N

N

Jim Davis

JD

Sun

2/3

N

N

Bart Whitely

BW

Caldera International

1/3

N

N

George Ariola

GA

Web Serv Mgmt Co

N

Y

Y

George Erricson

GE

EMC

1/3

N

N

Richard Nikula

RN

BMC

N

Y

Y

Ravi Fernando

RS

HP

N

N

Y

Igor Sedukhin

IS

 

N

N

N

Bill Dunigan

BD

Cyclone Commerce

N

N

N

Jeff Boulin

JB

WebMethods

N

N

Y

Yoshimasa Masuoka

YM

Hitachi

N

N

Y

Takaki Kuroda

TK

Hitachi

N

N

Y

Other Business

WB

None

 

Business In Order

 

Minutes

 

Minutes of Sept 4 meeting were approved as amended. The amendment stated that Karl Schopmeyer will assume responsibility for the Requirements document and will maintain it on an ongoing basis.

 

OASIS TC Process Update

 

Winston reviewed changes that were made this month to the OASIS TC Process. These are: (1) The process for submitting a specification for review, comment, and voting has been shortened. A specification is accepted with a majority vote of OASIS members. Ten percent constitutes a quorum for this purpose. (2) TC members are required to attend two consecutive meetings out of the previous three. If a member fails to maintain this level of attendance, the committee chair will dispatch a warning notice and, if the member fails to attend the following meeting, s/he will cease to be a member of the committee. To re-establish membership, the member must contact the chairperson and attend three consecutive meetings. However, each member may receive one leave of absence per calendar year during which attendance requirements are suspended.

 

 

OMI Presentation

 

Veena led the OMI presentation that covered highlights, architecture, current status, and future of the OMI. Co-authored by HP and WebMethods, the purpose of OMI is to connect the business process layer of management information with the lower layers of management information. OMI is based on XML and SOAP over http. OMI provides the interface between the OMI client and server. It is up to the vendors to supply the interface, including discovery, between the server and the vendor’s product; each vendor can implement this interface in its own way.

 

The protocol is in an early phase of development; tiered levels, for example, are still in development. The protocol is lightweight and generic. It should be possible to map it to any model developed with XML, including CIM.

 

OMI supports notifications, both push and pull. It has a small object dictionary.

 

CIM was not used as the basis of objects in OMI because it was felt that CIM is too large and expensive; perhaps if it could be slivered that it would be more usable.

 

Ken Crozier asked whether it was possible for a vendor product to access an OMI directly, bypassing the server. Veena said that this capability is not available directly out of the box.

 

CIM/WBEM Presentation

 

Julie reviewed history, major features and goals of the CIM specification. Some discussion items were inheritance, separation of policy content from policy model, information-based roles, metric for unit of work. She also discussion the customer support consortium: Consortium for Service Innovation (CSI) -- how to define .known problems and fixes. Currently there is no CIM SOAP specification. CIM does not have migration, copy, backup/restore. These are extrinsic methods – extensions to the core CIM functions.

 

Hitachi over SOAP presentation

 

Yoshi reviewed the TrueNorth specification. Hitachi’s TrueNorth provides a CIM/SOAP over http protocol for storage management. Hitachi is looking for a wider and more generic SOAP specification that encompasses more than storage. This standard should avoid the need for multiple WSDL definitions for each type of message.

 

Hitachi chose SOAP for TrueNorth because they believe it is more flexible and will be compatible with future web services as they emerge. TrueNorth has a single WSDL definition; everything else is inside the message.

 

 

W3C Presentation

 

Heather reviewed the goals and requirements defined by W3C for Management and Provisioning, and listed the specifications under development in the Management Task Force, Web Services Architecture Working Group.

 

Requirements Discussion

 

Attendees reduces the list of 41 requirements to 14. These 14 will be kept as the current requirements list.

 

 

 

 

 

5

Motion to adjourn

 

Meeting adjourned at 5:00 PDT to re-convene on Thursday, September 19, at the Cisco site.

Action Items & Motions

 

Owner

Action Item/Motion

 

Winston

Move the MPTC meeting time to 7 AM Pacific time since this hour will be somewhat convenient to all members, including those in Europe and Japan. We will move to this time for our meeting of Wed, Oct 2. Next week, Sept 25, we will meet at the usual time of 10:00 AM Pacific time.

 

Heather

MPTC should work with CIM, W3C, and OGSA to avoid duplication of effort. MPTC should also work with The Open Group, Storage Network Industry Association, JMX, DMTF.

 

Winston

Ask Dick Spellman to put together a set of ops required by JMX. We want to understand their requirements as we build our own specs.

 

 

Motions

 

 

 

 

References

[1] published agenda URL