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Subject: RE: [oasis-board-comment] Re: [board-agenda] Conflict of Interest Policy Final Draft
Hi all, Watching the progression from the original document's " an actual or possible Conflict of Interest exists " to Jeff's " an actual or possible Conflict of Interest exists " to Peter's " a Conflict of Interest may have arisen" leads to some thoughts. 1. Peter's suggestion seems to me to be almost the same semantically as the original. I'm not sure I understand how "may have" is different than "actual or possible" are much different. Both indicate a conditional state, to my mind. Perhaps a keener semantic eye for ultra-fine details could help me understand this better, but I right now I personally see little value in this proposed change. 2. Jeff's suggestion is interesting, but I disagree that the word "possible" has zero value. It does no harm, as an admission to "possibility" is also an invitation to continued investigation, which a person might actually want. It may provide value, in that it affords the opportunity for that person (with a possible conflict) to take a conditional stance, which might be useful if they wish to explore the "possibility" (oh, that word again) of conflict or perception of conflict with the cooperation of other Board members. In short, it enables a person to delay taking a binary, absolute stance initially, which might be a good thing. Thus, I have a small preference for retaining the word, but the possibility that others would prefer to remove it does not concern me. Regards, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:04 PM To: oasis-board-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [oasis-board-comment] Re: [board-agenda] Conflict of Interest Policy Final Draft Jeff: I see your point. However, I wonder if it should be tidied up further: surely it should be: "...if the affected member or officer does not agree that a Conflict of Interest may have arisen, then that person shall leave the Board meeting..." Unless the Board member concerned states that there *is* a conflict and until the Board deliberates (the subject of the next phrase in the section), there is only the presumption that a CoI *may* have arisen. BTW, The para is in Article III section 2, not 3 Cheers, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Mischkinsky [mailto:jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, 09 March, 2011 12:47 To: oasis-board-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: board-agenda@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [oasis-board-comment] Re: [board-agenda] Conflict of Interest Policy Final Draft hi, i think there is a bug in the wording in Article III, section 3: The intent, if i understand it correctly, is that if the person agrees that there is a conflict of interest, then no further action has to be taken by the board to determine if one exists. It is only in the case that the person disagrees that there is a Conflict that the board has to discuss and make a determination. That is not what the draft policy says. So i think that in the 2nd sentence of III/3 the words "or possible" should be deleted: Immediately afterwards, if the affected member or officer does not agree that an actual ***or possible *** Conflict of Interest exists, then that person shall leave the Board meeting while the determination of a conflict of interest is discussed and voted upon. cheers, jeff On Mar 09, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Lipton, Paul C wrote: > Hello, > > As you remember, an earlier draft of the Conflict of Interest Policy > was submitted in advance of the February Board meeting to allow time > for comment. After careful consideration of all comments received, the > attached documents (clean and redline) have been approved by the > Board's Governance Committee at its meeting of 03 March 2011. > > The Committee asks that this be included as an "A" item for decision, > at the Board's meeting of 17 March 2011. > > Respectfully submitted, > Paul > > Paul Lipton > CA Technologies > VP, Industry Standards and Open Source Member, CA Council for > Technical Excellence Office Phone: +1 609 583-9718 > Mobile: +1 267 987-6887 > Email: paul.lipton@ca.com > > <proposed-conflicts-policy-3mar11-clean.pdf><proposed-conflicts- > policy > -3mar11 > .pdf > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is for posting purposes only. Any discussion of agenda items > should be held on the board-comment@lists.oasis-open.org list. Thank > you. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: board-agenda-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > For additional commands, e-mail: board-agenda-help@lists.oasis- > open.org -- Jeff Mischkinsky jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com Sr. Director, Oracle Fusion Middleware +1(650)506-1975 and Web Services Standards 500 Oracle Parkway, M/S 2OP9 Oracle Redwood Shores, CA 94065
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