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Subject: Re: [oasis-charter-discuss] Nonresponsiveness to Charter IPR Comments



I will second Arshad's enhanced position to Dennis' original position. 
Transparency in the standards process should be cultivated from the very 
beginning of a new standard. Thank you both for raising this important 
issue.

Arshad Noor wrote:
> I will second this position.
>
> Perhaps the OASIS IPR boiler-plate should be changed to reflect
> that the default policy should be RF, and that the proposers of
> a charter should answer (with something more meaningful than the
> stock answer) why they have chosen to adopt another IPR method
> if they do not use the default.
>
> Let the "standards" market decide before the TC is convened if a
> given technology is worth standardizing despite the assertions of
> IP by some players.
>
> Arshad Noor
> StrongAuth, Inc.
>
> Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> There is a very odd boilerplate response in how some Charter comments 
>> are
>> addressed.  I'm sure it does not go without notice, but I'm going to 
>> call it
>> out anyhow.
>>
>> When someone says "I do not understand why this needs to be done 
>> under RAND
>> mode," to say "RAND is a valid OASIS IPR mode" is completely 
>> unresponsive.
>> It should be assumed that the questioner already knows that. The 
>> question
>> being asked is "Why is RAND mode adopted as opposed to one of the
>> more-lenient and predictable OASIS IPR modes?"
>>
>> To beg the question in this way is simply confirming the fears of 
>> those who
>> ask concerning unspoken agendas and intentions to (reserve the right to)
>> extract royalties. 
>> This response can continue to be used, but at some point 
>> forthrightness and
>> transparency would seem to be a preferable approach to creating a 
>> charter
>> where any sort of broad participation/adoption and support for 
>> adoption as
>> an eventual OASIS Standard is the objective. If the convener and 
>> proposers
>> are simply hedging their bets, they should maybe grow up and say it 
>> like it
>> is, even biting the bullet and make a solid declaration -- there is 
>> IP that
>> will be asserted or there is and it will be RF on RAND or even RF on 
>> Limited
>> Terms.  If the potential IP is speculative, commit about that up 
>> front so
>> others understand what they are walking into and freely contributing 
>> into if
>> they choose to do that.
>>
>>  - Dennis
>>
>> Dennis E. Hamilton
>> ------------------
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>>
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