RE: [oasis-member-discuss] Possible change to TC voting rules - input requested

["Hal Lockhart" <hlockhar@bea.com>]

Yes, but a bill can only become law if passed by BOTH houses. 

Note that a Committee Specification can only become an OASIS Standard if
approved by 15% of Organizations. So we already have the equivalent of a
Senate vote built into the process.

Hal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pham, Tony D [mailto:tony.d.pham@bankofamerica.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:15 AM
> To: oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [oasis-member-discuss] Possible change to TC voting rules
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> input requested
> 
> Board Process Sub-Committee,
> 
> Please consider Gilbert's point here.  It's very well said.
> 
> For comparison, think about the US Senate.  Each states would only
have
> 2 representative regardless of it size.
> 
> Tony
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilbert Pilz [mailto:gpilz@bea.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:27 PM
> To: Jeff Mischkinsky; oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [oasis-member-discuss] Possible change to TC voting rules
-
> input requested
> 
> I'm in favor of some change to the current rules. I *have*
participated
> in TCs with significant levels of "member packing" and it has the
> following problems:
> 
> 1.) It is unfair. Only the biggest organizations have the resources to
> pay people to do nothing but sit on concalls and vote.
> 
> 2.) It is escalatory. Once one organization packs a TC, other
> organizations are compelled to follow suite to "keep things even".
This
> "member packing arms race" is a drain on resources that could be more
> productively applied elsewhere.
> 
> 3.) It is contrary to the whole notion of "everybody participates,
> everybody votes". The packees aren't there to participate, they are
just
> there to vote.
> 
> What I'd like to know is why people think that changing the voting
rules
> will effect TCs that don't have member packing? If you're not
> participating in the TC for the sole purposes of voting, why should
> having to share your vote with other (1 or 2) members of your
> organization discourage you from participating?
> 
> - gp
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Mischkinsky [mailto:jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:37 PM
> > To: oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: [oasis-member-discuss] Possible change to TC voting
> > rules - input requested
> >
> > Dear OASIS Member,
> >
> > The OASIS Board Process Sub-Committee would like your input
> > on a possible rule change regarding TC voting.
> >
> > Currently any person who is a TC member can be a voting
> > member. Since eligibility is determined on an individual
> > basis, not an organizational basis, an organization can have
> > an unlimited number of voters (up to the number of members it
> > has on that TC).  Some concerns have been raised about this
> > being fair, being a drain on resources of those
> > organizations, and making it harder to manage quorum. Other
> > concerns have been raised that reducing voting power on TCs
> > could reduce participation.
> >
> > The options we are evaluating include:
> > (a) Leaving the rules as currently written;
> > (b) Capping the total number of votes that may be cast by TC members
> >      from a single organization to 1, 2 or 3;
> > (c) Capping the total number of votes that may be cast by TC members
> >      from a single organization based on membership class
> > (e.g., sponsors
> >      might get 3 versus contributors having 2).
> >
> > The voting rights of individual and associate members in TCs
> > would not be changed by these proposals.
> >
> > Please send your comments to:
> >   [oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org] by 20 November, 2006.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >    Jeff Mischkinsky, Chair; for the OASIS Board Process
Sub-Committee
> >
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