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Subject: RE: [office-accessibility] proposal
- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- To: <mpaciello@paciellogroup.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:08:18 -0600
OK.
Chieko, I tried to make the change Mike was referring to but the document is read only. Is there a reason?
Rich
Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review Board
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"mike paciello" <mpaciello@paciellogroup.com>
"mike paciello" <mpaciello@paciellogroup.com>
03/15/2006 10:12 AM
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I'd like to second Richard's motion to accept Cheiko's. However, if we're going to submit this as a formal document, the proposal needs to be edited spelling and grammar.
Regards,
Mike
Mike Paciello
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From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:47 AM
To: Dave Pawson
Cc: Chieko Asakawa; office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [office-accessibility] proposal
I would like to propose that we move the multimodal proposal to post the June update and accept Chieko's proposal:
(See attached file: proposal-alt-texts.odt)(See attached file: proposal-alt-texts.html)
My reason being that none of the rendering office products are multi-modal to date and our goal was to fix critical gaps and base presentation usability by June. The multi-modal piece is exciting in that it will greatly help DAISY but I worry that we won't have time to address the other issues for the June delivery like keyboard navigation in presentations. I also feel that given the time frame - if we start down this path we will find we have a lot more issues to address full multi-modality.
Comments?
Rich
"Dave Pawson" <dave.pawson@gmail.com>
"Dave Pawson" <dave.pawson@gmail.com>
03/13/2006 07:55 AM
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On 10/03/06, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com> wrote:
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> Hi Dave, Chieko,
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> I read this and see value in it but it does not fully address an interoperability problem with Accessibility APIs.
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> In MSAA, Java, or ATK on Gnome there is the notion of an accessibleName an AccessibleDescription. Description would provide the equivalent of longdesc. It provides additional verbose text to the user when asked.
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> So in the case of an OK button:
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> The accessibleName is would be "OK" and is the equvalent of a label
> The accessibleDescription might be "Activating this button will result in the indexing of your mail"
I agree on this as a general proposition.
However I am trying to improve on this for different modalities, by enabling
the provision of media other than text?
My basic content model for anything in a document not
in the same modality as the prime document (typically text)
is as below
> <define name="med-mediaobject">
> <element name="med:mediaObject">
> <oneOrMore>
> <ref name="med-imageobject"/>
> <ref name="med-textobject"/>
> <ref name="med-audioobject"/>
> <ref name="med-videoobject"/>
> </oneOrMore>
> </element>
> </define>
So rather than just insert an image/audio clip/video clip etc,
the user can insert a number of alternatives, supporting
multiple modalities, which hopefully will match those of the reader.
I see this as an improvement of only allowing text as the
single alternative format for the richer media.
So, for Richs example, an audio clip, the author might well add
a text equivalent or a video clip which provide the same information.
It is my hope that this meets the needs that Rich describes.
I also believe it negates the need for either alt text or longdesc
but having read the usage, I'm less sure.
A development might be to offer guidelines that the first block level
element in the textObject should be that 'brief' description, followed
by a more complete equivalent.
regards
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Dave Pawson
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