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Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] alt text discussion


I am sorry for the confusion.

I meant to say that we should provide a guideline document for user agent
(or ODF-to-HTML converter) developers.

I wanted to say that if some of the shapes do not provide alt text
attributes(draw:name), because they are meaningless, it is fine for screen
reader users.
However, in this case, an ODF-to-HTML conversion program(or user agent that
provides such function) need to supplement alt text attribute automatically
for an image in HTML. An image, here is a shape in ODF without draw:name
attribute.
Otherwise, Web accessibility checker outputs multiple errors that there are
no alt text for images, when it checks accessibility of HTML which is
generated by ODF.

Chieko


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Chieko Asakawa, Ph.D.
Accessibility Research
Tokyo Research Laboratory, IBM Research
E-mail: chie@jp.ibm.com
Tel: +81-46(215)4633     Fax: +81-46(274)4282



                                                                           
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Thanks Ckieko.

So you are saying that draw:name should be a schema required attribute or
are you saying that the author should supply a draw:name and that the
schema make it optional?

Cheers,
Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review Board
blog: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/dw_blog.jspa?blog=441

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Hi,

I want to add some comments for the alternative text discussion.
We want to propose that an HTML conversion method should be described for
shapes(rectangles, etc) without "draw:name", if "draw:name should be
optional".
Screen reader users will not need to have meaningless alt texts, however,
alt texts are required to be compliant with Section 508 and WCAG.
It seems that MS Office provides ways to insert alt texts for any shapes,
since a generated HTML documents from office documents should be compliant
with 508.

So we should describe that alt text should be inserted for a shape without
"draw:name", "svg:desc", and a caption, as Null text when an ODF is
converted to HTML format.
In this way, an ODF editor can generate accessible HTML document.

If you agree, then we need to find where we should describe such guideline.

Best regards,
Chieko


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Chieko Asakawa, Ph.D.
Accessibility Research
Tokyo Research Laboratory, IBM Research
E-mail: chie@jp.ibm.com
Tel: +81-46(215)4633     Fax: +81-46(274)4282




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