Re: [office-collab] Generic CT proposal - an implementer's look atit

[Frank Meies <frank.meies@oracle.com>]

Hi Rob,

yes, this would be an option. For example, there might be a use case for tracking the insertion of an unused automatic style in a document, but most likely not in the scope of collaborative document editing.

Regards,

Frank

On 05.04.2011 15:10, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:

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Would something like this give us the benefits of both approaches:

1) Specify the complete DeltaXML generic proposal, but in its own separate 
"part" of the standard.

2) Then in the conformance clause for ODF, reference a subset of these 
capabilities for use in conforming ODF documents.  For example, we could 
enumerate the specific places in ODF where the change tracking is allowed. 
 Maybe schema annotations could be used for this.

3) In "extended ODF documents" allow the unconstrainted general use of the 
change tracking features.

This matches how we treat extensibility in ODF 1.2.  We have an unlimited 
extensibility mechanism (foreign elements) that is difficult for any 
processor to handle in a generic way.  But this is only allowed in 
extended documents.  For non-extended documents we allow only specific 
kinds of extensions, e.g., RDF metadata, application settings, etc.

-Rob


Thorsten Behrens <tbehrens@novell.com> wrote on 04/04/2011 04:50:16 PM:

you wrote:

I'm not sure if I got you correctly. You consider it problematic
that there might be change transactions in the document that do not
match basic user actions.

No. I consider it problematic that there's no limit to the
creativity in producing *atomic* changes - an application would be
perfectly allowed to delete ~all content of a huge document at once,
with only one delta:remove-leaving-content-*, and even more arcane
stuff - and you and me would end up trying to break that down to 
something Writer understands. ;)

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