IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-10-09

[Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com>]

Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below. 
Our next meeting will be in two weeks on the 23th of October.

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=33780
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=10&day=23&hour=13&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800

The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event (URL above).

Attendees: John, Oliver, Peter, Patrick, Svante.

[15:36] Svante Schubert: Hi

[15:36] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: moin moin from Hamburg

[15:37] Svante Schubert: I have uploaded an initial draft

[15:37] Svante Schubert: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/document.php?document_id=50979
[15:38] Svante Schubert: please open the document. I will be explaining the sections..

[15:43] Svante Schubert: Oliver: Asked if all the Meta Operations exist

[15:44] Svante Schubert: Svante: The "format" might be applicable (still to be added)

[15:47] Svante Schubert: Peter: Has implemented paragraph, text, some styles..

[15:48] Svante Schubert: Peter: Saving changes/operations in time order

[15:50] Svante Schubert: Do we need a normalization of ODF to be able to compare XML test output?

[15:52] Svante Schubert: Other examples of ODF variations of the same document lead to in different XML:

[15:52] Svante Schubert: 1) Order of automatic styles

[15:52] Svante Schubert: 2) automatic style names

[15:52] Svante Schubert: 3) text:space elements might be split or a single one (similar to span)

[15:52] Svante Schubert: 4) span can also be nested or split

[15:52] Svante Schubert: 5) Hyperlink can be split as well

[15:52] Svante Schubert: 6) Further existence of optional elements/attributes..

[15:55] Svante Schubert: An implementation note: Nesting spans should be avoided it just makes things complicated (traversing recursivly content, searching for spans, inheriting.. etc.)

[16:00] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Svante: Do you know, if there is any record of Kendy's presentation?

[16:01] John Haug: Similarly, it would be interesting to see what you/Peter presented at the LO conference.

[16:02] Svante Schubert: A little off-topic as implementation dependent - The talk of changing the writer core http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/program/development-2/new-data-structure-for-writer-core
[16:02] Svante Schubert: Slides should follow.. they are on it, the orga said.

[16:02] Svante Schubert: Our talk is here, yet without slides: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/program/open-document-format/real-time-compatible-odf-change-tracking

[16:05] Svante Schubert: Off-topic still important for Office applications: Visual regression testing for offices (MS Office, LO/AO, Google Docs): http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/program/open-document-format/a-multiplatform-tool-for-document-interoperability-testing

[16:07] Svante Schubert: Done by an expert of image processing, he print out on command line the test document as PDF, change to bitmap

[16:07] Svante Schubert: bye

[16:07] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: bye
[16:14] 
Svante Schubert: Source repository for the Visual Regression testing:

 https://gitorious.org/docmp