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Subject: Re: [office-comment] Ambiguity problems caused by ID/IDREF
Michael, Thank you for your thoughtful mail. I am happy to see that you are serious about bug reports. > a) Alex Brown has suggested to use W3C xml:id rather than Relax NG DTD > Compatibility: snip > Would the use of W3C xml:id without using the Relax NG DTD > Compatibility Specification in your opinion add ID semantics to the > xml:id attribute? I think so. In other words, I do not understand the non-normative appendix "D Validation Technologies" of xml:id. But you might want to hear the opinion of the editors of xml:id. > The W3C XML ID specification in appendix D.2 recommends: > > "RELAX NG Grammar authors are encouraged to declare attributes named > xml:id with the type xs:ID.", Yes. I do not understand why this is encouraged. > and the "Guidelines for using W3C XML Schema Datatypes with RELAX NG" > state that > > "The semantics defined by [W3C XML Schema Datatypes] for the ID, IDREF > and IDREFS datatypes are purely lexical and do not include the > cross-reference semantics of the corresponding [XML 1.0] datatypes." > > This sounds to me like that using W3C xml:id without Relax NG DTD > Compatibility does not specify ID semantics for xml:id. In my understanding, the xml:id processor should provide ID semantics for xml:id. > > On the other hand, the W3C xml:id specification also states that: > > "An xml:id processor should assure that the following constraint holds: > > * The values of all attributes of type "ID" (which includes all > xml:id attributes) within a document are unique." > > so at least the uniqueness of the IDs may have to be checked. However, > the semantics of IDREF attributes seem to remain purely lexical unless > the the Relax NG DTD Compatibility Specification is used. Is my > understanding correct? I think that you are right. I do not know why the xml:id spec does not provide xml:idref as well. > Is my understanding correct that a specification that uses Relax NG > (like ODF) may require conformance with only one, or two of the three > features defined by Relax NG Compatibility. In particular, is it > possible to request conformance with the attribute default value > feature, but not with ID/IDREF feature? Or vice versa, could a > specification request conformance with the ID/IDREF feature only? Strictly speaking, the DTD compatibility spec defines conformance of application programs but do not define conformance of schemas. It rather defines compatibility of schemas. A schema may be compatible with the ID/IDREF/IDREFS feature without being comptible with the attribute default values feature. > In other words: Is your suggestion to claim conformance to the ID/IDREF > feature in the future, but to not claim conformance to the attribute > default value and documentation features? Or is your suggestion to > claim conformance to the full DTD Compatibility specification, but to > not define any a:defaultValue attributes or a:documentation elements in > the schema, so that all that what is said about these features in the > Relax NG DTD Compatibility specification simply is not applicable to the > ODF schema. The latter. But I do not think a:documentation elements should be prohibited. > > And is it in your opinion permitted that the ODF specification currently > makes only use of the default value feature without claiming conformance > to the ID/IDREF or documentation feature? The ODF schema is NOT compatible with the default value feature. It is NOT compatible with the ID/IDREF feature. Since it does not have any occurrences of a:documentation elements, it is compatible with the documentation feature. Hope this helps. Cheers, -- MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given) <EB2M-MRT@asahi-net.or.jp>
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