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Subject: RE: [office-comment] ODFF: XIRR
David, Allow me to echo Rob's sentiment. I find your questions and comments very useful and something to think about. I do have a question for you, although I appreciate that your attention has moved to other matters. Here's my question: Can you recommend authoritative sources that establish the principles that are behind certain functions, especially in financial analysis, treatment of securities and accounts, and so on, that should be referenced for guidance of those who want to implement appropriate functions in electronic spreadsheets and their formulas? I'm particularly interested in rules that are used in accounting and financial practice, and the authoritative sources of those rules. I'm concerned that we have authoritative subject-matter expertise for citation and also comparison with what various programs do. Any advice that you have would be very welcome. I invite you to discuss this further on the office-user list, saving the -comment list for comments that are specific to the ODF definitions of operations, including OpenFormula functions. Regards, - Dennis Dennis E. Hamilton ------------------ NuovoDoc: Design for Document System Interoperability mailto:Dennis.Hamilton@acm.org | gsm:+1-206.779.9430 http://NuovoDoc.com http://ODMA.info/dev/ http://nfoWorks.org PS: The concern behind my question - My sense is that the work on spreadsheet formulas is conducted by software developers and others with much insight around computation. It seems to me that the basis for definition and formulas is often derived from what other software does (or is thought to do), often with considerable ingenuity. My concern is that we risk resolving our concerns for standardization by consultation of software and various practices without understanding the domain of practice in the world of users, treating the problem as simply one of getting software to align. I appreciate that software implementations raise edge cases that may or may not represent real-life situations but which need a predictable computational result anyhow. It might be useful to take those cases back to the appropriate authorities for resolution or at least confirmation that they are not of concern. [I am reminded that the work to create tournament-caliber chess-playing programs led to requests for clarification of the international rules of the game and the rules were updated to clarify how certain unusual conditions were to be adjudicated in both human and computer play.] -----Original Message----- From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/200809/msg00015.html Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 06:14 To: office-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [office-comment] ODFF: XIRR "David King" <openoffice@drking.plus.com> wrote on 09/07/2008 11:46:43 PM: > > I've worried that my contribution on this list has been rather > fulsome, to the point of 'noise', and I was intimating that > things would be a bit quieter ;) > Hi David, I certainly have found your review and contributions valuable. Since the ODF TC is still a bit behind on responding to public comments in general you probably will not receive a detailed response for another couple of months. But getting the financial function definitions clear and correct is critical for ODF 1.2. So we will be acting on your comments, once we get to them. Regards, -Rob
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