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Subject: RE: [office-requirements] Starting up ...
Hi everyone, This is actually in reply to Bob's message which I must have missed. Here's the rules: 1. All comments by non-TC members must be submitted via the TC comment list. In order to post a comment you must first subscribe; confirmation of the subscription acknowledges the commenter's acceptance of the OASIS feedback license.* 2. Any and all content and systems used by technical committees must be hosted on OASIS servers, unless otherwise authorized by the OASIS TC Administrator. What that means is: a) if OASIS provides a particular toolset/app that app must be used. (For instance, OASIS provides moin-moin wikis for any TC that asks. A TC cannot set up and use a moinmoin wiki (or any other wiki for that matter) elsewhere.) b) if there's no app currently available to meet a particular need, OASIS IT will evaluate the feasibility of hosting an identified app given our current infrastructure. c) if neither a) nor b) are true, a TC can petition the TC Administrator to make use of an external resource. That resource will need to match all OASIS requirements with regard to read/write access and visibility as well as assurances of support, availability, etc. Regards, Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Mahugh [mailto:Doug.Mahugh@microsoft.com] > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:57 AM > To: Bob Jolliffe; office-requirements@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [office-requirements] Starting up ... > > Bob, > > I agree, there does not seem to be an existing system that is tailored > to the needs of public comment collection. > > Regarding your question, there has indeed been a proposal to build a > system for use by WG4 to automate the collection of comments in > IS29500. It is a relatively simple web application, and uses a data- > entry form that is based on the G5 Defect Report form included in the > JTC 1 Directives. I demonstrated a prototype of this system at the > London meeting of AHG1/AHG2 in July. The system will be ready to go > live as of the Jeju plenary on the 1st of October, however that system > is currently planned for NB/liaison comments only. We discussed a > public comment collection system in London, and some members were of > the opinion that such a system should employ other technologies such as > topic maps, beyond the simple relational model used by the system we > put together for use by WG4. At this point the public comment > collection process for IS29500 is an open item that will be > discussed/decided in Jeju. > > Regards, > Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Jolliffe [mailto:bobjolliffe@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:48 AM > To: office-requirements@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [office-requirements] Starting up ... > > Rob, > > Thanks for the feedback. I had in mind points 1 and 3 below but I > think the second item (regarding tooling) is a really important one. > It has come up on a TC call before and was also a point of discussion > around DIS29500 processing of comments. > > I know ECMA created something for producing the final resolution of > comments document. Various NBs (including UK and SA) made use - or > abuse - of a software issue-tracking program called mantis to try to > organise the work. In both of these cases they were not dealing with > the front end process of actually collecting the comments. > > I think the general conclusion to be made is that (1) tooling is > really important where there is significant public interest in a > standard and (2) the specific tools (if it is specific tools which are > required) don't yet exist. Its also not just an OASIS problem - I know > SC34 were also considering the issue regarding collection of comments > for OOXML. > > Doug, do you know if there has been any proposal there? > > Does anybody know what can or can't be hosted on oasis? Or are we > restricted to the basic structure which is provided? Would it be > allowed (or even proper) to host a "tool" outside of oasis? > > Regards > Bob > > 2008/9/4 <robert_weir@us.ibm.com>: > > bobj@dst.gov.za wrote on 09/04/2008 06:24:28 AM: > > > >> > >> Greetings and apologies for the long quietness. I was in Brazil > >> last week and returned to something of an email blackout. I am back > >> up and running again now. > >> > >> We need to plan for a an inaugural first conference call. Can I > >> suggest Wednesday in two weeks (17 Sep)? Looking at the current > >> geographical spread of members of the SC I am guessing that the same > >> time as the TC call, 14h00 GMT, should be at least workable for most > > people. > >> > > > > I can make it then. > > > >> In the interim I will work on an agenda (and figure out how to set > >> up the call) so please send through any agenda items you might want > >> to add. The first call is likely to be a fairly open discussion as > >> we brainstorm modes of operation. > >> > > > > 1. Appoint editor(s) for the report > > > > 2. How do we organize our work, in terms of tooling? We'll be > dealing > > with 200-500 ideas if we open this up to public input. We need to > > classify, short, prioritize these all. A spreadsheet gives the > > sorting/filtering needed, but limits us to a single editor at a time. > A > > wiki is more open, but doesn't have support for sorting and > filtering. > > > > 3. Outreach for feature ideas -- who/how/when? > > > > -Rob > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > > https://www.oasis- > open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
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