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Subject: RE: [office] XMP XML:RDF Metadata
Thanks to all for the clarification. OASIS does have wiki capability based on the MoinMoin engine and I'd be more than happy to have one set up for the TC. OASIS wikis work in a similar fashion to Kavi - that is, world-readable, but only members can post/contribute. Regards, Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg > [mailto:Michael.Brauer@sun.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:30 AM > To: robert_weir@us.ibm.com > Cc: 'Gary Edwards'; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; 'Office, OASIS' > Subject: Re: [office] XMP XML:RDF Metadata > > Rob, > > I agree to your position. In fact, we agreed to add the > document to our document section and to ask for feedback on > our normal channels. > > I have uploaded the document to our document section now, and > I will announce it on our mailing list in a few minutes. > > Michael > > robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote On 11/15/05 16:18,: > > > > I'm confused. > > > > OpenDocument is an OASIS specification, so I'd expect the technical > > refinement of the specification to occur under OASIS. I would not > > expect that outside, ad-hoc groups would set up technical > reviews with > > the participation of TC members outside of TC processes and > policies. > > Doing so would seem to diminish whatever advantage we have for > > promoting a standard developed within a legitimate standards body. > > Remember, even Microsoft can do as much as set up a Wiki > and invite > > some experts to develop a specification. But this falls short of > > doing it in an international recognized standards body, > with defined > > policies for decision making, IPR, public comment, liaison > with other > > standards bodies, etc. > > > > So let's be quite clear about what were talking about here. Are we > > soliciting public comment on the meta data draft? If so, > let's put it > > out for public comment via normal channels, so everyone (not just > > OpenDocument Fellowship) is aware of it and has a fair > opportunity to > > provide comment. But I'd personally be very careful about > TC members > > refining an existing proposal in a different organization under > > uncertain or incompatible IPR policies which may not allow > > reincorporation into the OASIS ODF specification. Better, in my > > opinion, to let the public review and provide comments, and if they > > want to submit a revised proposal, let them do so according > to existing policy. > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > *Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg > > <Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM>* > > > > 11/15/2005 09:30 AM > > > > > > To > > mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > > cc > > "'Gary Edwards'" <gary.edwards@OpenStack.us>, "'Office, OASIS'" > > <office@lists.oasis-open.org> > > Subject > > Re: [office] XMP XML:RDF Metadata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mary, > > Hi everyone, > > > > Mary McRae wrote On 11/15/05 14:01,: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I tried to dial in yesterday and unfortunately couldn't get > > through. I'm sorry to have missed the call. It's unclear to me > > > exactly what is being proposed here. Is the metadata project still > > considered a work item of the TC? If the answer is yes, all work > > > > Yes. The metadata project is still considered a work item > of the TC. > > What we > > have a agreed yesterday was that we put the current meta > data proposal > > on our TC's web site and ask for feedback until December, > the 19th. We > > urther agreed to discuss the feedback we receive in the conference > > call of December, the 19th. There was no decission to continue the > > meta data work item somewhere outside the OpenDocument TC. > > > > > must be done within the OASIS framework. I know the TC > has several > > other very pressing issues to settle (accessibility, DRM, > > formulas, > > etc.) so maybe the decision was made not to undertake this > work item? > > > > The TC's decission was to postpone the meta data discussion > until we > > have restructured the TC in a way that allows us to discuss the > > additional topics, that have a higher priority for the > moment, and to > > use the time to get feedback for the proposal. There was no > decission > > to cancel the the meta data work item. > > > > I therefore think that the TC is in agreement that the meta > data work > > item will be continued within the TC. Feedback to the TC's > work is, as > > always, welcome. > > > > Best regards > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Gary Edwards [mailto:gary.edwards@OpenStack.us] > > >>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 5:05 AM > > >>To: Office, OASIS > > >>Subject: [office] XMP XML:RDF Metadata >> >>Hi ODF, >> > > >>Following this mornings conference call i sent Florian's > >>XML:RDF > > proposal to Bruce D'Arcus. He set up a Metadata >>Project > hosted by > > the OpenDocument Fellowship. There is a >>discussion list > and a wiki > > to interactively build on the >>proposal Lars and Florian > have spent > > so much time on. > > >> > > >>Bruce was able to enlist the services of the W3C - XML > dev >>gang > > that first advised us on XML:RDF. And guess what? They > >>are back > > at it. > > >>Tread lightly, the fur is flying. The ODF Fellowship > >>volunteers > > will set about the task of beating the bushes for >>interested > > participants, and getting the word out that this >>is a > high priority > > project needing high level participants. > > >>The volunteers will also handle project documentation and > > >>scarfing up needed resources. This is how the OpenFormula > > >>Project was brought back from the brink. Hopefully, >>lightning > > will strike twice. Even the legendary Daniel >>Volgelheim > has been > > dragooned into joining the effort. Who >>would believe it? > > >> > > >>What the project really needs is the direct participation of > > >>Lars, Florian, and Patrick Durusau. We also need the Adobe > > >>experts to get directly involved. I'll ping Duane about > >>that. > > My guess is that Duane is now a father and quite busy >>with the > > world's first little OpenDoc'er > > >>:) Let's hope all is well with Duane and his family. > > >>Meanwhile, Duane has left me with a list of Adobe > experts, >>and > > i'll take on the task of inviting them to the project. > > >> > > >>One thing the project could use is a sense of what the > TC >>would > > like them to produce. So if possible, if anyone has >>any > thoughts > > on this, please jump in and help set the course >>for this > effort. I > > think they're on the right track, but >>it's something the > TC needs > > to keep a handle on. If you >>recall the eMail dump i did > from the > > last go around with the >>W3C guys, you'll understand how > important > > it is that we >>provide some clear objectives and > parameters. (Like > > there >>won't be a new metadata model unless it meets the > needs of > > >>the primary applications represented on the TC :) >> >>You can > > find the the MetaData Project at: > > >>http://opendocumentfellowship.org/Metadata/HomePage > > >> > > >>The listserve is at: > > >>List name: odf-metadata@opendocumentfellowship.org > > >><mailto:odf-metadata@opendocumentfellowship.org> > > >>Subscribe: odf-metadata-subscribe@opendocumentfellowship.org > > >><mailto:odf-metadata-subscribe@opendocumentfellowship.org> > > >> > > >>Hope this helps, > > >>~ge~ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - >>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS > > >>TC that generates this mail. 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